Church Scandal gone global.

There is an argument that says that if you have to explain a joke..... :confused:
 
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:) Well, i'm off it is is 2 hours past midnight and 6 hours before I get up at 9.....I hate daylight saving :mad: :evil:
 
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Don't the psychiatric nurses let you sleep-in then?

I'll explain the joke Dex. It's 'ME'! Yes I'm the joke for engaging with the new boy. What I should do is ignore him and if everyone did the same perhaps he'd go away.... I live in hope!
 
. What I should do is ignore him and if everyone did the same perhaps he'd go away.... I live in hope!

:) That would be nice. Why don't we make the effort to not respond to eachother. Obviously trying to start a fresh is not something you are willing to do. Certain people just clash. Farewell.
 
If the vatican could od that back then, and whetever else they may have been doing...I wonder what they are doing now behind closed doors....no wonder they have so much secrecy....they must be doing all kinds of evil stuff behind those doors....makes me sick :(
 
When a new pope is being chosen all the evidence of his past conquest are burnt hence the black smoke,once this is done white smoke signals all is clear.
 
All past evidence burnt, but he could have a real shady past, I guess thats what the vatican looks for, anyway who hires the pope, and how come we never see him...
 
Religion is the ultimate scam of all time when you think about it. Think about this for a
second. Religion actually has people convinced , that there is an invisible man who lives in the sky. Who watches you every moment of every day and this invisible man has a list of ten things he does not want you to do. If you do any of these ten things. He will send you to a special place. A place where you will burn and be tortured for all eternity.
 
Religion is the ultimate scam of all time when you think about it. Think about this for a
second. Religion actually has people convinced , that there is an invisible man who lives in the sky. Who watches you every moment of every day and this invisible man has a list of ten things he does not want you to do. If you do any of these ten things. He will send you to a special place. A place where you will burn and be tortured for all eternity.
Not really.
It is entirely possible to believe that there is more to our existence than meets the eye and that one should live a life that is most likely to resonate with an ultimate "harmony". It could well be argued that this is a desirable thing (for all parties) to aspire towards, and read views and philosophies that may help one attain it.

It is however a completely folly to follow a group of religious "professionals" and to think that by so doing so, one is defacto saved. Thus "religions" are largely a prostitution of the message which their original icons espoused. To follow a religious order is to have sold your ar se to the devil, and as such it follows naturally that bestial priests should take advantage of the offer.

I for one would welcome some insight into these issues by omeone who has studied differing religions and their histories. C'mon skitz - where are you? :confused:
 
Intelligent men do not decide any subject until they have carefully examined both or all sides of it. Fools, cowards, and those too lazy to think, accept blindly, without examination, dogmas and doctrines imposed upon them in childhood by their parents, priests, and teachers, when their minds were immature and they could not reason.

[Some] 433,000,000 Mohammedans believe that the Koran was brought by an angel from heaven; 335,000,000 Hindus believe one of their gods, Siva, has six arms; 153,000,000 Buddhists believe they will be reincarnated; 904,000,000 Christians believe a god made the world in six days, Joshua stopped the sun by yelling at it, and Jesus was born of a virgin and nullified natural laws to perform miracles.

There is absolutely no scientific proof of any of these claims. Science has shown them to be contrary to all known facts. It is more intelligent to classify them as false. Religions are all based upon the primitive superstitions of ignorant, stone-age men who had no knowledge of science and thought the world was flat. The Catholic Church imprisoned Galileo for life and burned Bruno at the stake because they disagreed with these superstitious beliefs.

These primitive beliefs have been kept alive by a vast army of priests, preachers, and rabbis because it is to their great profit to promote them, first, by imposing them on the helpless brains of children, and second, by saturating the air, TV, press, and schools with their childish superstitions and unreasonable claims. They fool the ignorant and make the gullible and the intelligent alike pay tribute to them. Their multi-billion-dollar properties and incomes are exempt from taxes; they get half-fare on trains, busses, and planes; and receive billions of dollars in grants of taxpayers' money to help build up their political power, wealth, and luxurious living. Taxes could be cut 10 percent if churches paid their just share. That would mean a probable saving of 20 billion dollars a year to the people of the U.S. every year of their lives. Some priests also indoctrinated with superstition from childhood probably believe what they preach. It pays them handsomely to do so.

Religious beliefs are against common sense. There is no god, just because priests say so. There are no angels, devils, heavens, hells, ghosts, witches, nor miracles. These superstitious beliefs are promoted for the purpose of making the gullible believe that by paying money to the priest-class, they will be favored by one of the gods. There is nothing supernatural -- nothing contrary to natural law.

Religion has caused untold ignorance, murder, torture, fear, poverty, unhappiness, wars, and has kept the world 10,000 years behind the times. It still does, while the millions support the priestly loafers in comfort and ease. For ages the independent thinkers have been murdered, ostracized, tortured, and suppressed and their writings destroyed. Only in recent years have a few courageous thinkers been free to criticize religions.

Great thinkers and scientists -- Voltaire, Thomas Paine, Charles Bradlaugh, Luther Burbank, Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Edison, Charles Darwin, Albert Einstein, Henry L. Mencken, Charles Smith, Joseph Lewis, Rupert Hughes, Bertrand Russell, H.G. Wells, Mark Twain, Herbert Spencer, Thomas Huxley, Clarence Darrow, Chapman Cohen, George McDonald, George Bernard Shaw, and hundreds of others -- have discarded all or most of the religious beliefs.

This leaflet will be shocking to the unfortunate victim brain-whipped by religious indoctrination from childhood. But those who have a spark of intelligence will examine the facts, will stop paying tribute to the religious profiteers, and lose their fear of a mythical god and mythical hell.

If the gods which foolish people pray to were decent beings they would not permit innocent children to die of cancer, be blind, suffer from polio, muscular dystrophy, syphilis. A good god would not have manufactured fleas, bedbugs, chiggers, lice, rattlesnakes, sharks, deadly germs, sickness, diseased brains, idiots, and insanity. All these things are the result of blind, natural evolution. A just god would not cause some innocent people to die or be disabled for life in airplane, train, and ship disasters while others survived.

The Thinkers Club appeals to you to examine both sides so we may all escape from this religious oppression which degenerates the minds, forces all to pay tribute to the priestly parasites, and ******* human progress.
 
Eloquent and pretty comprehensive tinman( ;) ). It's a real pity that Dawkins couldn't have summarised his views so succinctly - I guess that he had an atheist bible to sell for profit.

I agree with all the point about organised "religions". However, I take issue with two things-

First, listing a load of clever people who help a simliar view isn't a proof. You can be very clever, very well educated etc etc, and still just plain wrong :!:

Second, twice in my life I have experienced things which science cannot (or has yet failed to) explain. One is "hearing" my mother's voice at the exact moment of her dying while I dozed 100miles away from her. It was very very odd and eerie. From this I don't extrapolate the existence of a god (and thus the need to toss off self serving priests), but I do question whether this is all that there is.
 
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