Church Scandal gone global.

I think someone is missing the point ( cornish man), everyone belives in heaven or hell right.....even athiests

so why would god make the earthly lives so perfect, and then put us in heaven, and there would be no need for hell, as we would all be perfect....life is a test of character.

by the way, we muslims do not give any money to our priests, we are told to help the needy and give to the wayfarer.

I would not even contemplate thinking like an athiest....as they seem to think they know everything....if they do know everything how come an athiest, can never never provide concrete proof of thier thoery, that god does not exist.

but then isnt athiesm brainwashing also as they want people to believe thier is no god...with no solid evidence at all...and consiquently want everyone to live carefree, of life after death....

i'd rather be prepared for heaven than be prepared for nothing and end up in hell....its good practice any way.:cool:

even science has said that intelligent design has a creator, and the universe is the most intelligent design with all it has inside it.

can an athiest explain intelligent design?????????????????????????????


athiests do not believe in heaven or hell, when we die that is it :eek:
 
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darwins theory has more holes in it than my mothers collendar...and if darwin was right why are monkeys still about and how come nothing is eveolving anymore, and why dont we find half monkeys and half men?

see what I mean, all athiest point to darwin, whos "theory" was never proven.:cool:
 
and you have proof do you cornish that when we die that is it?????????????

or are you trying to brainwash me????????????????????????
 
darwins theory has more holes in it than my mothers collendar...and if darwin was right why are monkeys still about and how come nothing is eveolving anymore, and why dont we find half monkeys and half men?
We do - they live in cornwall :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

see what I mean, all athiest point to darwin, whos "theory" was never proven.:cool:
nor is the existence of god, nor the sh ite that it's claimed that "he" has said/decreed.
 
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darwins theory has more holes in it than my mothers collendar...and if darwin was right why are monkeys still about and how come nothing is eveolving anymore, and why dont we find half monkeys and half men?

see what I mean, all athiest point to darwin, whos "theory" was never proven.:cool:

,.....really? Are we really at this point??

OK,
1) there are no holes :)
2) Darwin never said we evolved from monkeys...he said that modern day apes and us have a common ancestor.
3)We are still evolving. Which is why we are a lot taller than we were only 100 years ago.
4)Similar to 2)...firstly no monkey involved secondly, we replaced them.

Als, trust me when I say there is the evidence there if you let it in.
 
than I guess you are a hypocrite, as you are saying religion is trying to brainwash, yet you are doing the same thing only with no proof,

nor is the existence of god, nor the s**t that it's claimed that "he" has said/decreed.

there is tons of proof, a supreme power exists, ie god..........there is a supreme power responsible for creation sicinec even agrees, which you used to down religion bty...

If god doesnt exist how can you proove intelligent design, when even science agress that intelligent design must have a creator...athiest cannot argue with this

as you cannot say intelligent design does not have a creator....its like saying the ifle tower camoe about by pure chance and coincidence, and the tower just sits there. doesnt eat sleep or ****. explain that:cool:
 
and you have proof do you cornish that when we die that is it?????????????

or are you trying to brainwash me????????????????????????

Proof is needed to prove something happens...not that something doesn't.

Can you find proof that there AREN'T ninja squirrels on mars?...does that mean they do exist? Or is the onus on ME to provide the evidence of these squirrels?
 
skitzee, please provide me with an explantion for intelligent design, which SCIEBCE agress must have a creator, and give me fact, just one that god does not exist
and why we should not believe in god, but believe there is no god.
 
and you have proof do you cornish that when we die that is it?????????????

or are you trying to brainwash me????????????????????????

Proof is needed to prove something happens...not that something doesn't.

Can you find proof that there AREN'T ninja squirrels on mars?...does that mean they do exist? Or is the onus on ME to provide the evidence of these squirrels?

are you taking a **** or just playing riddles

Proof is needed to prove something happens...not that something doesn't.
 
exactly my point whenevr an athiest is put to the test they just come out with riddles

bty darwins theory theory theory has never been proven.:cool:
 
Having faith can be a feeling or it can be something stronger like believing in God.

As humans we have evolved in to complex individuals with emotions and feelings.

There is no denying this. It is what sets us apart from the animal kingdom.

I was brought up in a certain Faith but i am far from devout.

But i do believe there are many people , even atheists who have a quiet word inside especially when ones child is sick or a loved one is on the operating table.

Just think of the time you say "oh Jesus!" or Oh God!" when you are in an emotive state.
 
If we live in a purely material world then how do we account for the many supernatural experiences that people have, such as encounters with God, ghosts, spirits, etc (obviously, exactly what all of these encounters actually are are all interpreted by different people in different ways but the fact remains that people encounter things that do not fit a purely naturalistic world view). Are we really to conclude that all of these people are delusional, deceptive, or mad? Or could it be that people are having real encounters with real supernatural beings not explainable through purely scientific mediums?

Where does all of the incredibly complex information come from that is stored within DNA? Information doesn’t just appear by itself. Someone has to put it there.

Why does humanity seem to have an innate desire and need to worship something, or someone? Why is there such a universal religious sense within humanity?

Isn’t it a bit extreme to assert "God does not exist"? To make such a statement you would have to have complete knowledge and to have been everywhere in the universe. Maybe God dwells somewhere in the universe you don’t know of or have not been to? Is that possible?

What about the evidence of design in all of creation? It is obvious that anything that is designed has to have an intelligent creator. For example, a computer never came about by mere accident, but had to have been thought out and planned by an intelligent designer. It is the same with creation, and more so, as the natural world is far more complicated than anything humanity can create.:cool:
 
skitzee, please provide me with an explantion for intelligent design, which SCIEBCE agress must have a creator, and give me fact, just one that god does not exist
and why we should not believe in god, but believe there is no god.

...it doesn't state it must have a creator.
Especially not an intelligent one.

Did you know that the recurrent laryngeal nerve this is the nerve that goes from the brain to the heart is actually wrapped around the heart in a kind of strangled route? In giraffes this leads close to 20ft of pointless nerve....this was left over from a past evolutionary ancestor...
...did you also know due to the design of our throat (in order for us to speak) the poor design has caused us to be the ONLY animal that can choke?

There are hundreds of design flaws...that if there HAD been a designer, would have got rid of
 
Having faith can be a feeling or it can be something stronger like believing in God.

As humans we have evolved in to complex individuals with emotions and feelings.

There is no denying this. It is what sets us apart from the animal kingdom.

I was brought up in a certain Faith but i am far from devout.

But i do believe there are many people , even atheists who have a quiet word inside especially when ones child is sick or a loved one is on the operating table.

Just think of the time you say "oh Jesus!" or Oh God!" when you are in an emotive state.
Does saying 'Holy Cow' make you a Hindu too? Or 'touch wood' make you a pagan?
 
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