Common Sense at last.

[motorbiking]

Its odd that they struggle with the difference between things they are supposed to monitor and record (e.g. hate incidents) and things that are crimes e.g. robbery.

 

[noseall]

quite the opposite, wasn't it?

No. He did not love her. He probably hates a lot of pretty women and would like to smack a few more.

 

[sodthisforfun]

There are - it's called assault

Only assaulted her because she didn't like his cat-calling?

Plus, of course, I don't think the man hated her; in fact, quite the opposite, wasn't it?

Is it normal for blokes who are rejected to suddenly turn violent?

 

[EFLImpudence]

No. He did not love her. He probably hates a lot of pretty women and would like to smack a few more.

I bow to your superior knowledge of this man.

I didn't say he loved her but that he presumably did not hate her.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Is it normal for blokes who are rejected to suddenly turn violent?

Depends what you mean by normal.

Two pints of beer has that effect on some men.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Anyway, would you be saying it was 'hate' crime if he had thumped another bloke.

As NotSoNewboy said, it's assault. Simples.

 

[noseall]

I didn't say he loved her

No.

You said...

in fact, quite the opposite

Stupid statement.

At the point where he smacks her chops, I'd say he hated her with venom.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Ok.

 

[Brigadier]

Depends what you mean by normal.

Two pints of beer has that effect on some men.

Lager.

 

[sodthisforfun]

Depends what you mean by normal.

Two pints of beer has that effect on some men.

You're blaming the beer, not the man. That's wrong.

Anyway, would you be saying it was 'hate' crime if he had thumped another bloke.

As NotSoNewboy said, it's assault. Simples.

Not so. The reason he thumped her was because she refused his advances/wasn't turned on by his cat-calling. That was based on sexual interest because (presumably) he wanted to get to know this woman in a sexual way.

Had he thumped a bloke for no sexual reason, then it would be assault.

 

[Ian H]

Not so. The reason he thumped her was because she refused his advances/wasn't turned on by his cat-calling. That was based on sexual interest because (presumably) he wanted to get to know this woman in a sexual way.

What if she was turned on by his cat-calling and then they had sex? Would he still have committed a crime?

 

[sodthisforfun]

What if she was turned on by his cat-calling and then they had sex? Would he still have committed a crime?

Then why would he thump her?

 

[Ian H]

Then why would he thump her?

He wouldn’t, so the thump is the crime. The thump is assault.

 

[EFLImpudence]

You're blaming the beer, not the man. That's wrong.

No, I'm not.

Not so. The reason he thumped her was because she refused his advances/wasn't turned on by his cat-calling. That was based on sexual interest because (presumably) he wanted to get to know this woman in a sexual way.

Was he doing that because he hated her?

Had he thumped a bloke for no sexual reason, then it would be assault.

I think you are forgetting that it might have been be for the same reason.
Very un-PC of you.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Of course, if it had been for the same reason, the thump might have been the other way round.