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But to hate fat people?
It's not a crime to hate fat people, it's a crime to attack people because you hate fat people.
Nothing stopping a sad twit sitting at home, seething to themselves about fat people. Not illegal, just sad.

Contrary to what others may think on here, it's not illegal yet to think bad thoughts about people and their appearance, religion, whatever. It's bad to act on them.
 
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the BBC hasn't posted on this site.

You have.

Mostly nonsense.

The BBC doesn't have a costume fetish.

You, however....
 
It's not a crime to hate fat people, it's a crime to attack people because you hate fat people.
Nothing stopping a sad twit sitting at home, seething to themselves about fat people. Not illegal, just sad.

Contrary to what others may think on here, it's not illegal yet to think bad thoughts about people and their appearance, religion, whatever. It's bad to act on them.
Yet the ex CC of Nottinghamshire has classed misogyny a hate crime.
 
Yet the ex CC of Nottinghamshire has classed misogyny a hate crime.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...uld-be-treated-differently-when-it-comes-hate
As an elderly man from a different generation, who has displayed some misogynistic tendencies on here already, you will never understand because you are unwilling to see it from any other viewpoint than your own. I doubt you've ever been scared of a woman in your whole life, nor lived your life with this underlining worry that woman are taught from an early age because of a long history of men oppressing women through control, violence, whatever. No, you'd rather blame the woman because she may have tits on display, or indeed, actually just happen to have tits and the men can't help themselves because tits are for men, not babies, right? Or cry that it's prostitutes who are taking advantage of men and expect people to feel sorry for the men, when it's men by and large who pimp, are violent towards the girls, run kidnappings and prostitution rings and take the money for doing sod all. Yeah, the women really have the upper hand here don't they?

Your view on women is outdated and pretty appalling.

But sure, just be a silly old man, stomping your foot like a child and cry that "it's not fair" when it comes to a law that actually, through tougher sentences, may make men think twice about behaving appallingly towards women and act as a deterrent. You think you are right - well, you're not right. This is not about making men a politically correct victim if they get done behaving inappropriately towards women, this is about giving women a chance to walk down the street with the same level of peace as a man does. Something you've always taken for granted.
 
I think you are under a misapprehension, my problem, as is common on here, is with the meaning of words.

It's not a crime to hate fat people, it's a crime to attack people because you hate fat people.
Nothing stopping a sad twit sitting at home, seething to themselves about fat people. Not illegal, just sad.
Yet, you seem to be saying it is a crime to hate women or any of the other groups.
 
I think you are under a misapprehension, my problem, as is common on here, is with the meaning of words.


Yet, you seem to be saying it is a crime to hate women or any of the other groups.
WFT is wrong with you?
I mentioned fat people because I was replying to Ian who used fat people as an example. Other than that, don't try and put words in my mouth. "seem to be saying".
Try looking at the whole post:
It's not a crime to hate fat people, it's a crime to attack people because you hate fat people.
Nothing stopping a sad twit sitting at home, seething to themselves about fat people. Not illegal, just sad.

Contrary to what others may think on here, it's not illegal yet to think bad thoughts about people and their appearance, religion, whatever. It's bad to act on them.
Secondly, it's not a crime to hate women, or any of these groups. It's a crime to act on that hatred and commit a criminal offense. I would've thought that was clear.
 
WFT is wrong with you?
I mentioned fat people because I was replying to Ian who used fat people as an example. Other than that, don't try and put words in my mouth. "seem to be saying".
Secondly, it's not a crime to hate women, or any of these groups. It's a crime to act on that hatred. I would've thought that was clear.

Hooray, so you agree with me and the first Chief Constable in the original post and the second CC who has has classed misogyny a crime is wrong.
 
Hooray, so you agree with me and the first Chief Constable in the original post and the second CC who has has classed misogyny a crime is wrong.
You don't think it should be classed as a hate crime, I don't see any problem with it.
 
So do you think that it's ok for a Muslim man to be targeted for a crime, just because he's Muslim and just have it labelled as a crime, not a hate crime? So it gets a lesser punishment?
Or have a Muslim walk down the street and have abuse shouted at them, just because he/she is Muslim? That's ok huh?

If you don't think that's ok then that is a good thing, makes you a nicer person. But there is similarities of what women put up with and have done for donkeys years just because they are women.

The only thing I see different here with your reasoning is that you don't seem to like women.
 
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Secondly, it's not a crime to hate women, or any of these groups. It's a crime to act on that hatred and commit a criminal offense. I would've thought that was clear.
I agree with that.

Misogyny is a hatred of women, ergo, according to what you wrote, misogyny is not a crime.

It's a crime to act on that hatred and commit a criminal offense
Yes. Commiting a criminal offence is the crime - whether hatred is involved or not.
 
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