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Commons Statement on Hillsborough
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Joe your topical on many threads but please dont turn this one into a tit for tat ffs.
If you have ever been to a concert, football match etc....you dont need to push, momentum will carry 5000 forward. You only need to move forward an inch.
Nexy question Joe?
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Also trips, people with different walking pace or stride patterns, or police behind forcing you forwards etc all a factor
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Crush injuries are from lateral forces. Where does that force come from in that situation? Behind.
Yes I've been to many football matches and my young brother used to pick is feet up and let the crowd carry him forward - but those behind had to push for that to happen.
Yes I've been to many football matches and my young brother used to pick is feet up and let the crowd carry him forward - but those behind had to push for that to happen.
1. So are you claiming no one pushed
2. ****** anyway, momentum might cause it to feel a bit claustrophobic, but not crush people to death, and I have been to large events.
We have already established in other threads that your knowledge of physics and science isnt the best around.
A crowd of 5000+ people in a confined space do not need to 'push' to cause what happened at Hillsborough.
One person moves, then person next will move and so on....that is a lot of weight and momentum being carried forward. Fans did not push, they just went with the momentum of the crowd. The barriers and fencing then stopped that momentum causing the crush.
Now go away and learn a few things before you make pathetic comments.
yes I am claiming no one pushed, read my post above...educate yourself.
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Then explain why it wasn't (and isn't) a weekly occurrence all over the world where crowds gather. (He won't).
Wondered when you would turn up so tell me have you no facebook R.I.P sites left to troll?
Because crowd control has improved massively in this country since Hillsborough, along with safety aspect of grounds and correct capacity regulations. Unlike Hillsborough, where the capacity wasnt enough for the allocation of tickets.
Other, less safety concsious countries still have these problems
See Joe....( I will answer anything you put)
Yeah, go to any large event like Trafalgar Square on New Year's Eve, or Notting Hill Carnival, and it's nowhere near as nasty and at times terrifying as it was 30 years ago.
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I went to games in that era - why were crushes never regular events? Something was different about that game. What was it?
If you went to games in that era, and never witnessed crushes, then you are blind....or a liar.
The same game the season before some people got injured at that ground, in 1981 ( i think it was) there was crushing at that ground. It happened at lots of games. People complained in 1988 and nothing was done, the ground had no safety certificate to stage a game that big.
One of the main reasons, was Duckenfield had never police a football game before, I think he did one with a few thousand fans and that was all.
Also, Liverpool support was massive and had the largest following, they should have given them the other stands in the ground, and the smaller amount of Forest fans the Leppings lane end.
Then you have the issue of making available x amount of tickets, 2000 more than the stand could safely hold.
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