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joe-90 said:
Before this thread is locked I'd like to the thank the owners of the site for their open-minded attitude to a difficult issue. Everyone can make up their own minds from this point on.
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Do you think the site admin have kept this thread open to facilitate free and open debate?

Or to give you enough rope to hang yourself with, legally speaking?
 
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Why don't you answer Joes Questions instead of resorting to personal abuse, "holocaust denial" is a term coined by Deborah Lipstadt it is used as weapon to destroy any one who questions the orthodoxy of the holocaust, the red cross who had access to all these camps thoughout the war never mentions gas chambers why was that then? if gas (zyclon b or carbon monoxide ) was the primary tool of extermination for up to 4 million people (more than the population of Wales) why despite the recovery of thousands bodies from mass graves ect. and thousands of Autopsies carried out by the allies not a single victim has been found to have died from gassing? what about the so called "Nazi war criminal"Walther Rauff the so called inventor of the Gas van he was alleged to have been responsible for the deaths of up to 700,000 people in his gas vans, it might interest people to know that old Walther was arrested after the war by the allies instead of being put on trial he was given a job with Israeli intelligence and then with the British mi6.

Try reading the history of atrocity propaganda you will see that "Gas chambers" predate the WW2. During WW1 British newspapers carried accounts of atrocities against serbs by the Austrian army whom it was alleged had emptied entire villages by forcing the inhabitants into churches and barns ect. and gassed them using "asphixiating machines" or the accounts of the corpse recycling factories where it was claimed that dead German soldiers were being melted down to make soap and fertilizer, these claims were believed by millions of people it wasn't until the war ended that the British admitted that it was all rubbish.
 
joe-90 said:
Discredited by those who had good reason to discredit it? Why were they allowed into a 'death camp' anyway?

4 million for fifty years - then dropped to 1.5 million.

Explain that one.

Just where do you get the notion that you are believing the truth?
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The 4 million was supposed to include 3 million non jews (mostly poles) but the Zionist lobby claimed that so-called "Polish Holocaust" (the Poles also claim to be victims of a holocaust but as they don't have the same media connections so you won't hear much about it) was a myth, a bit ironic don't you think, so the revised figure when non jews are excluded is around a million or so, this means that figure of six million still applies.
 
This Thread is interesting by virtue of the fact in a growing number of countries a discussion like this is highly illegal,(in Austria you can get up to ten years in jail for so called "holocaust denial") people should be aware that there are moves afoot to brings these holocaust denial laws to Britain, if that happens then we are all in trouble.
People like Joe could become martyrs to the cause of freedom of speech and conscience just like latimer and ridley.
 
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t****r said:
Why don't you answer Joes Questions
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Joes question have been answered, you tell me what question hasn't.

Even issues in your own post have been answered :rolleyes: Problem is you look in one direction, the wrong one.
 
t****r said:
This Thread is interesting by virtue of the fact in a growing number of countries a discussion like this is highly illegal,(in Austria you can get up to ten years in jail for so called "holocaust denial") people should be aware that there are moves afoot to brings these holocaust denial laws to Britain, if that happens then we are all in trouble.
People like Joe could become martyrs to the cause of freedom of speech and conscience just like latimer and ridley.
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Not as simple as that though is it? Has to be connected to hatred, you know the sort of people joe quotes :rolleyes:
 
You may not like the postman - but he delivers the same letters.

Oh and no questions have been answered.

77,000 murdered? Or 32,000 by disease?
 
joe-90 said:
You may not like the postman - but he delivers the same letters.

Oh and no questions have been answered.

70,000 murdered? Or 32,000 by disease?
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German citizens murdered in camps on their soil, makes you wonder how many none Germans they murdered as well. Read what was written.

You deliver letter written by racists who have admitted to a hidden agenda. Motive, objectivity or even natural is something needed. :rolleyes:

I have no doubt you know all about the orgs you source your info from that's why you get in a ****y fit when I quote Nizcor. Nizcor has one of the most comprehensive collection of data, videos and tape recording data based for all to view at will. The IRH don't offer anything on the level, infact they don't even reply to debate when it gets too hot for them.


Joe quotes question from the IRH and links to them, Nizcor has answered all the question backing them up. The IRH have no credibility i
with mainstream historians because all their arguments have been addressed with no response.

It's been an ongoing debate since the early 1990s, Weber lost and abandoned the denial stance and moved on with his anti Zionist campaign.

You can't dismiss the motives of the people collecting data in order to interpret it for public debate. Nizcor publish all data from both sides, offer their argument and ask them reading to make up their own minds.
 
Nizcor are an extreme holocaust group. No more relevant that neo-nazism.

The source I quoted is mainstream and moderate. Just because they don't agree with the extreme stuff that you hold dear doesn't meant they have it wrong.

Now start posting from some moderate authorities and we can then make up our own minds.

You even deny Simon Wiesenthal because he accepted the moderate truth rather than the extreme stuff that you push at us. :rolleyes:
 
I find it strange when people accept comment in a specific Web page but are happy to ignore the other information on these sites.
Wolzek openly states his anti semitic views on many of these sites
 
You are using that made up word again. :rolleyes:

Have you read the links that you posted?
 
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