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Explain why you based your claim the gas chambers didn't exist on the Fred Leuchter report and then expected everyone to accept you were telling the truth.

You know, the report that was commissioned by the self confessed holocaust denier Ernst Zundel for his court case.

The same Fred Leuchter that was exposed as a charlatan having fabricated his Academic Qualifications, skills and experiences.

You can do that can't you Joe?

Be a good chap and post verified facts instead of misinformation.
 
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Explain why you based your claim the gas chambers didn't exist on the Fred Leuchter report and then expected everyone to accept you were telling the truth.

You know, the report that was commissioned by the self confessed holocaust denier Ernst Zundel for his court case.

The same Fred Leuchter that was exposed as a charlatan having fabricated his Academic Qualifications, skills and experiences.

You can do that can't you Joe?

Be a good chap and post verified facts instead of misinformation.

I don't know who he is. I'm not interested in the postman - just the letters he brings.
It's dead easy to slur someone - not as easy to prove them wrong.
So what did he say that was wrong?
 
If 12,000,000 people held hands and formed a line. It would stretch 24,000 kilometres. If you flew down that line in a jumbo jet it would take you 24 hours. That's a lot of people. 24 times the population of a city the size of Liverpool or Manchester.

Yet we are expected to believe that they disappeared without a trace.

So where did they go?

Someone has some explaining to do.
 
Explain why you based your claim the gas chambers didn't exist on the Fred Leuchter report and then expected everyone to accept you were telling the truth.

You know, the report that was commissioned by the self confessed holocaust denier Ernst Zundel for his court case.

The same Fred Leuchter that was exposed as a charlatan having fabricated his Academic Qualifications, skills and experiences.

You can do that can't you Joe?

Be a good chap and post verified facts instead of misinformation.

I don't know who he is. I'm not interested in the postman - just the letters he brings.
It's dead easy to slur someone - not as easy to prove them wrong.
So what did he say that was wrong?
Oh come now Joe.

You brought him into the debate yourself, you based your argument on the report. To now deny you know who he is would make you look extremely silly indeed.

So, to avoid confirming the belief that you are indeed a very silly person, just explain why you expect us all to believe Leuchter was a credible expert witness.

Your call Joe, are you so silly?
 
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Dr Piper and the gas chambers:

The Leuchter Report revisited

Another question that should be asked: Is there any Zyklon B gas residue in the gas chamber, knowing that cyanide gas would, in fact, leave a residue?

In 1988, execution equipment expert Fred Leuchter conducted forensic examinations on the gas chambers at Auschwitz to answer that question.

He took samples from the four gas chambers at Birkenau, the one at the main camp and the control sample from one of the disinfestation chambers that we know did use Zyklon B. Now, the gas chamber samples showed almost no appreciable traces whereas the disinfestation sample literally went right off the scale.

More importantly though, in 1990, the Institute of Forensic Research in Krakow decided to conduct their own forensic tests to see if they could refute Fred Leuchter's findings. They did this with Dr. Piper's help.

Their own tests got back the same results so, since then, the question has not been, "Are there any appreciable traces of Zyklon B residue in the gas chambers?" but instead, "Why are there not any appreciable traces?"

I put this question to Dr. Piper. I asked him why there are so few appreciable traces in the homicidal gas chambers compared to the large amounts of traces found in the disinfestation chamber.

Piper: ...Gas chamber, the Zyklon B was operated a very short time, about 20, 30 minutes during 24 hours and in the disinfestation rooms it operated the whole day and night. Such was the procedure of using gas in the disinfectation rooms and gas chambers.

Now let's be perfectly clear about what Dr. Piper is saying. I asked him, "Why is the residue count high in the delousing chambers, but low in the homicidal ones?"

And he answers, because the delousing chambers were used "day and night" whereas the homicidal ones were used "about 20,30 minutes during 24 hours," this would account for roughly one gassing a day. Now not only does this contradict the eyewitness testimonies which speak of repeated homicidal gassings going on day and night but Dr. Piper also manages to contradict himself because later on in the interview I asked him how many groups of people a day would be gassed and he, too, speaks of repeated gassings."


Another unfortunate truth eh?

http://vho.org/GB/c/DC/gcgvcole.html
 
Explain why you based your claim the gas chambers didn't exist on the Fred Leuchter report and then expected everyone to accept you were telling the truth.

You know, the report that was commissioned by the self confessed holocaust denier Ernst Zundel for his court case.

The same Fred Leuchter that was exposed as a charlatan having fabricated his Academic Qualifications, skills and experiences.

You can do that can't you Joe?

Be a good chap and post verified facts instead of misinformation.

If someone posts something or gives a link to a site where the information does contain lies it doesn't follow that the person posting or giving the link is liar does it.
 
I guess that the Krakow Institute are a bunch of liars too?




"More importantly though, in 1990, the Institute of Forensic Research in Krakow decided to conduct their own forensic tests to see if they could refute Fred Leuchter's findings. They did this with Dr. Piper's help. "
 
Lets look at another thing that Dr Piper said shall we?


He said that, "The gas chamber in Auschwitz was used for 20 - 30 minutes per day" .

One session. With that tiny chamber it would have taken 15 year to kill 1.1 million and 60 years to kill 4 million (take your pick with the figures).

So how does that work then?

Answers please.
 
If someone posts something or gives a link to a site where the information does contain lies it doesn't follow that the person posting or giving the link is liar does it.

If you post that Joe claimed in this thread that he was a Trappist monk when he didn't, he asks you to show where he made such a wild and preposterous comment, you then refuse to admit your error and continue to insinuate he was wrong, what does that make you?
 
What about the Krakow Institute? They are liars too I presume?

You really have to learn the difference between a lie and an inconvenient truth.
 
Joe,

Did i read that you believed the Holocaust did happen?

Yes but not in the way that it portrayed. Israel was compensation - so it had to be pretty dramatic. If they were just one of several persecuted groups then that wouldn't be enough would it?
 
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