So, basically, you can't answer my question then
No doubt because you made the claim up
Could Russia hang on a bit till we get the right diversity to fight them
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No doubt because you made the claim up
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I just did answer your question.So, basically, you can't answer my question then
No doubt because you made the claim up
It wasn't a claim, it was an opinion. Feel free to present an argument disproving my opinion.
Before you do, consider this:
If the military cannot recruit sufficient personnel, (without addressing the racist and sexist culture), in order to maintain its ability it will have to reduce the entry qualifications. Hence the overall ability of the military will be reduced. if however they had taken some drastic policies to improve the number of recruits from ethnic backgrounds and other genders, there may not have been any requirement to reduce the entry qualifications. Therefore it stand to reason that those ethnic minority and other genders that are currently not being recruited would far surpass any reduced entry requirements that may have to be adopted in the future.
Additionally, no-one can claim that the brightest and the best are currently being recruited if a potential 50% of the population are discouraged from joining.
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I'd like to think your right but fear your wrong.
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The like of Nostril uses the word Gammon as an insult. It doesn't bother me and I don't suppose it bothers you. It does however send the fight against racism backwards.
Nostril can say it as much as he likes but can a black man ? Not really ......well he can but it's not really going forward is it.
Maybe Nostril needs take a breath and a good think....
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I don't give a to55, it's when they claim insults are the preserve of brexiteers I get a little perplexed.
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People who joined the army always used to be boisterous, energetic, often unpleasant and nasty individuals. These are characteristics I always saw as a necessity for going to fight and kill an enemy. You might not like these people, and in fact, when I was younger and knew a few of these types, I always dreaded them coming home and fighting in pubs etc., but it was those people who won the wars. There doesn't seem to be any of them left anymore.
Absolutely, and I don't think I'm wrong in saying the Scots and the Welsh excelled in this area (being hard). Some years back I read that a Welsh MP called for a ban om army recruitment in Wales because in a deprived area the take up would be far higher depriving them of other careers or whatever. The people I know who joined the army did so to learn a trade and saw a career path, I don't know anyone who joined specifically for a bit of a scrap, but for those who did, fair play.
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So we have no tough milutary people any more ?
Thats surprised me !
Thats surprised me !
Maybe BJ's attempts at evening up has provided other real opportunities.
Seriously, usually joining the army was a sign of desperation and lack of other opportunities. It's why and how so many were easily recruited from former 'colonies', because it was a job with a regular salary, but no job security and no future.
Only about 10% of the military are actually engaged in battle. The times of everyone serving on the frontline have ben long gone.
Maybe the need to understand, use and repair technologically advanced weapons has changed the need for the rough tough type.
But what you are suggesting is that the army was well served by educationally challenged people.
So it's not surprising that a racist and sexist culture dominates and has done for a long time. It's taught to the recruits by the serving soldiers.
I keep asking the same question, and keep you keep refusing to offer any suggestion.
What does keep pushing the rock uphill actually mean in real policy?
Clearly you've identified there is a problem, hence your suggestion of pushing the rock uphill. But it's just motivational speak. You might as well have said, "keep going", or "keep putting one foot in front of the other", "needs blue sky thinking", etc, etc. But it doesn't amount to a bag of beans in solving the identified problem.
All you've done so far is to accept that there is a problem, criticised another proposal for solving that problem, and used some motivational speak.
What concrete proposals do you have, if any, for addressing the problem?
Sisyphus was doomed to push a rock uphill for eternity and Barack Obama made reference to the myth in a note to Hilary Clinton when they were trying to get the Affordable Care Act through Congress.
Roe v Wade was a significant step forward in Women's Rights but the repeal this year means 50 years of progress has taken a step backwards, so the rock rolled forward and now it's rolled back.
A simple metaphor.
Why're you asking me for 'concrete proposals'?
Because you recognised a problem exists, but offered only motivational speak as s contender for a resolution:
It's normal to ask for opinions for concrete proposals for a recognised problem.
I already got a job.
What's your solution?
What's your solution?
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