COVID vaccines and heart attack risk revealed

[IT Minion]

Eh?

Don't play with the sockpuppet

 

[Odds]

You can back that up?

of course it can't.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Excess deaths in the elderly are the latest trend. BUt hey that does not matter they where old anyway lets just recommend the vax for them only now. As forcing it on younger people was making the experiment seem risky for a while and people where cottoning on,but people have short memories.

You have obviously undergone a name change, simply to get around those who have blocked your previous names. No problem, your posts are blocked again.

 

[old duffer]

Some years are up, some are down, but you could have looked that up yourself.

What do you think is actually wrong with the new methodology?

you are very defensive...are you a shareholder in one the pharmaceutical companies producing the job? you need to declare that....
taken from the ONS website..page
"Individual weeks and months that were substantially affected by the immediate mortality impact of the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic are removed from the data when estimating expected deaths in subsequent periods, whereas the current approach involves removing data for the whole of 2020"

 

[old duffer]

And by the antivaxxers of the time. This is some of what the tinfoil hatters said of the vaccine, do you see the similarities?

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so the concept of a vaccine did not exist yet people were opposed to it LOL
Your billy bonkers lad LOL

 

[denso13]

are you a shareholder in one the pharmaceutical companies producing the job

No.

taken from the ONS website..page
"Individual weeks and months that were substantially affected by the immediate mortality impact of the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic are removed from the data when estimating expected deaths in subsequent periods, whereas the current approach involves removing data for the whole of 2020"

What is wrong with that?

 

[denso13]

so the concept of a vaccine did not exist yet people were opposed to it

Yes, I showed you that?

 

[old duffer]

No.

What is wrong with that?

No.

What is wrong with that?

there can be no discussion with zealots...

 

[old duffer]

Yes, I showed you that?

you had a picture of something without context or reference...is that all zealots need for proof

 

[denso13]

you had a picture of something without context or reference...is that all zealots need for proof

Fill yer boots,

COVID-19 anti-vaxxers use the same arguments from 135 years ago

www.history.ox.ac.uk

 

[denso13]

there can be no discussion with zealots...

Why can't you answer a simple question? You complain about things but don't seem to know why?

 

[SirGalahad]

Any vaccine developed at the speed that the Covid vaccine was due to the pandemic would not be as thoroughly tested as a normal vaccine - so there was a tradeoff.

It is perfectly reasonable to have healthy scepticism about medications however when that scepticism falls into quackery then we have a problem.

It seems the same group who are rabid anti vaxxers because they believe it is part of some larger conspiracy to reduce population are first in line to defend corporations for their destruction of the environment, excessive profits, government influence etc.

Bonkers.

 

[Brigadier]

oh look a halfwit that doesnt understand why its being removed

Perhaps he hasn't got access to your "sources".

 

[SirGalahad]

ANDthe halfwits in here believe that pfizer wouldnt lie to make billions .
oh denseo this is cut and pasted .


Pfizer, the world's largest drugs company, has been hit with the biggest criminal fine in US history as part of a $2.3bn settlement with federal prosecutors for mispromoting medicines and for paying kickbacks to compliant doctors.

Who did you vote for in the GE and what did you vote in the Brexit referndum?

 

[IT Minion]

Any vaccine developed at the speed that the Covid vaccine was due to the pandemic would not be as thoroughly tested as a normal vaccine - so there was a tradeoff.

That's not true.

It wasn't scheduled in the same way as normal, but it did all the normal steps to the same standards. The COVID testing was very wasteful and no vaccine manufacturer would burn money like that normally

Equally the signoff process was the usual people analysing the usual data, but normal scheduling was ripped up to ensure people were able to focus on it immediately.