COVID Was....

I'm merely pointing out that Labour just wanted more of what the government did, therefore it seems logical to conclude that we'd have ended up with more of the same ill-effects if they'd been in charge at the time.

Just look at Wales to see the authoritarian regime that Labour rule tends towards, their lockdowns were more severe and their effects were worse.
 
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Possibly not if your version of "logical" is believing that the labour party were going to be radically different or ever will be.
 
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Boris Johnson asked the top scientists Sir Chris Whitty and Sir Patrick Vallance if Covid could be destroyed by blowing a “special hairdryer” up the nose, according to Dominic Cummings.

Did Sir Alex Ferguson get the call? :unsure:
 
...Poor leaders and advisers made all this worse, but the system failed too. Johnson and Cummings have now gone. The system has not. It needs to change.
So the big question arising out of Covid that will continue to face all future governments, not just a badly run one like Johnson’s, is whether they can be any better prepared. There is little evidence of that so far. Yet it would be foolish to leave the whole problem to Hallett to solve. Another pandemic, a climate catastrophe or another border control crisis will not wait for the Whitehall machine to process her report.
 
...Poor leaders and advisers made all this worse, but the system failed too. Johnson and Cummings have now gone. The system has not. It needs to change.
So the big question arising out of Covid that will continue to face all future governments, not just a badly run one like Johnson’s, is whether they can be any better prepared. There is little evidence of that so far. Yet it would be foolish to leave the whole problem to Hallett to solve. Another pandemic, a climate catastrophe or another border control crisis will not wait for the Whitehall machine to process her report.
Any organisation worthy of its reputation plans for potential disasters.
For predictable disasters there'll be a dedicated emergency action plan, with the facilities to carry it out already in existence, even mothballed until it's required.
 
The system has not. It needs to change.

This.

Cummings had it right, in that regard.


This whole sorry episode has just demonstrated that too many people - and, significantly, those higher up - clearly did not get there through demonstrable ability or merit.


Every organisation has people with pathologies, idiosyncrasies, "ways", but the overall structure deals with this to a greater or lesser degree.

It's apparent that both the cabinet and the higher levels of the civil service were woefully lacking.
 
Cummings and Trump said the swamp needs draining.
Cummings and Trump were gotten rid of but the swamp still remains.
 
If Roger Daltrey isn't too busy, maybe.
You not heard about this treaty 194 countries are drafting that will be ready for signing off next year, there's some coffers want filling so that it all runs smoothly of course.
 
You not heard about this treaty 194 countries are drafting that will be ready for signing off next year, there's some coffers want filling so that it all runs smoothly of course.
Link me, Gantish Man. :cool:
 
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