Deal or no deal

[ellal]

Where did that come from?

From one of the brexiteers 'holy books'

Of course the slant put on it is as usual rather warped...

"The Government allowed our quota to be bought up by foreign companies, but it's a public asset and should be for British fishermen."

Ignoring the fact of course that English/Welsh fisherman were quite happy to sell the quotas for a quick profit, whereas overseas owners took the long term view!
(Scotland took a different approach and kept 95% of it's quotas. Much more shrewd!)

So although a very small part of the 'deal or no deal' problem, I wonder what the UK would think if it were the other way around?
The EU are simply making sure that legally agreed contracts aren't stolen!

 

[Dangee]

Go away weirdo

 

[ellal]

Not necessarily, if a British boat is fishing in the Channel Isles area, and that includes boats from the CI then they often land their catch in France, pointless taking it back to UK to refrigerate and then truck over to France.

Especially since of March 2019 the UK decided to expand it's shipping register...

"There is no requirement for the owner or the manager to have a UK presence, but if the owner/corporate entity is based outside of the UK, they are obliged to nominate a UK-based representative person/managing owner. This nomination is purely for registration correspondence (for example renewal notices or reminders etc.) and can be performed by a local service provider. It has no bearing on the physical management of the vessel’s operation, which remains with the ISM manager whose location is unrestricted."

 

[fillyboy]

Especially since of March 2019 the UK decided to expand it's shipping register...

"There is no requirement for the owner or the manager to have a UK presence, but if the owner/corporate entity is based outside of the UK, they are obliged to nominate a UK-based representative person/managing owner. This nomination is purely for registration correspondence (for example renewal notices or reminders etc.) and can be performed by a local service provider. It has no bearing on the physical management of the vessel’s operation, which remains with the ISM manager whose location is unrestricted."

There's talk of new rules, 60% British owned, 60% British crewed and 60% of catch to be landed in UK but nothing definite I believe. I think if they tried to reclaim quotas that were sold it would be a legal minefield, but a lot can be done legally to control the quotas to favour the UK.

We'll have to wait and see.

I was surprised to read the other day that we catch more fish than France, given their stance I thought it was the other way round.

The Dutch are keeping quiet about it.

 

[Vinty]

The Government could buy back any fishing quotas that have been sold to foreign interests.

Sort of compulsory purchase scheme like councils do for slum clearance or building a road through private land.

In a no deal situation it would be easier as the UK would have complete control over UK waters.
Obviously the former owners of fishing quotas would have to be fairly compensated.

 

[JohnD]

The Government could buy back any fishing quotas

at an agreed commercial price.

Sort of compulsory purchase scheme

Are you OK with renationalisation of the Railways and the Post Office, by the way? Water Boards? National Grid?

 

[just pumps]

Are you OK with renationalisation of the Railways and the Post Office, by the way? Water Boards? National Grid?

You can`t be serious, oh wait you are aren`t you

 

[just pumps]

https://cdn.diynot.com/data/avatars/m/24/24560.jpg?1606174925
You do know the people of Sunderland want to leave the EU don`t you.

 

[Vinty]

at an agreed commercial price.



Are you OK with renationalisation of the Railways and the Post Office, by the way? Water Boards? National Grid?

I don't think they should be renationalised as such, but the government could remove the private share holders and replace them with the government as majority shareholders so that all dividends and a large percentage of the profits go to the state.

 

[noseall]

so that all dividends and a large percentage of the profits go to the state.

And those 'massive' profits can start delivering positive dividends in about 350 years time. Fishing .

Get Brexit Done, lol.

 

[Notch7]

There's talk of new rules, 60% British owned, 60% British crewed and 60% of catch to be landed in UK but nothing definite I believe

That would be interesting.

That 60% crew would have to work under EU employment rules
UK fish processors don't have capacity to deal with the increase.
And most of the catch would get sold to EU......but only possible in EU get access to fishing

 

[Notch7]

https://cdn.diynot.com/data/avatars/m/24/24560.jpg?1606174925
You do know the people of Sunderland want to leave the EU don`t you.

Yes the people of Sunderland voted to lose their biggest employer.

Support for Brexit in these regions will plummet next year.

 

[JohnD]

I don't think they should be renationalised as such....

You are out of touch with the majority of the UK.

 

[ellal]

I think if they tried to reclaim quotas that were sold it would be a legal minefield.

Oh don't worry...

The UK has no problem with breaking the law/agreements and even boasts about it!

 

[ellal]

Yes the people of Sunderland voted to lose their biggest employer.

Support for Brexit in these regions will plummet next year.

Au contraire, surely?

They said that they would accept any job losses and even financial devastation in order to 'get back control'...

Are you suggesting that they would waiver in that belief when the brown stuff hits the fan?