Death in the channel…again

[Roy Bloom]

Don’t feed the womble.

Anything to add to the debate?

 

[Roy Bloom]

Where do you live?

Not small, not overcrowded

In a not small, not overcrowded space.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Where are the wars they are fleeing?

It's not just war, it's conflict (of any sort), persecution, famine, lack of employment, environmental issues, etc.

 

[Roy Bloom]

No not really most of us who voted Brexit where against open borders.

UK has never had open borders.
So tell us again what it was you voted for.

 

[Roy Bloom]

I was out in rural Essex today.

Our city's and towns are packed. Our infrastructure is knackered. Our hospitals are poorly run and full. Multiple occupancy homes are popping up in the poorer areas.

Are you living on a now?

And that was 'rural' Essex.
What was urban Essex like?

Are you living on a now?

 

[Roy Bloom]

How come you want to deny other people the opportunity to live in open countryside then?

2 + 2 =5

 

[Roy Bloom]

That will learn them.

You think you have the qualities to 'learn' others?

 

[Roy Bloom]

And so it seems. It's also cheaper to share the cost.

Landlords of crowded London flat that caught fire plead guilty to criminal charges

Mizanur Rahman, a 41-year-old father of two, was killed in a fire at the flat in Shadwell

www.theguardian.com

Whose fault was it for not doing something about it?

Residents on the Tarling West Estate in Shadwell, where the flat is located, previously warned the council that the house was severely overcrowded but no action was taken before the fire.
The property was registered as a house in multiple occupancy (HMO) in August 2022.
Nor does this legal action begin to address the years of neglect, lack of prior inspection and haphazard repairs by the council on the estate and others like it in the borough.”

From your link.

 

[Roy Bloom]

If people arrive in the UK without documentation and don’t want to claim asylum, they are illegal,immigrants and should be deported.

Some maybe victims of people trafficing for sex, slavery, etc.
The Illegal Immigration Act also would apply to those victims. They would have no protection against being further 'trafficked ' to Rwanda. (if the scheme ever gets going)

 

[Roy Bloom]

When did you stop voting Tory?

What does that have to do with the discussion?

 

[motorbiking]

knackered infrastructure and knackered hospitals the result of 5 decades of Neo liberal, privatisation / free market bolox.

if you want it to stop, stop voting Tory.



Thatcher sold off 1.5m council houses that have never been rebuilt

HMO are the result of people unable to afford decent housing.



When will right wing supporters stop blaming Johnny Foreigner and start blaming British politicians for the mess this country is in.

HMOs have always existed. It was the norm for families to share houses.

 

[Roy Bloom]

When will you stop stiring racist hatred.

Where is the racist hatred in notch7's post?

 

[motorbiking]

You have not provided evidence that supports your argument, the report you link says:

“decision making productivity has been going down”

on page 6 it refers to a home affairs committee report that says “antiquated IT systems, high staff turnover, too few staff”

it refers to Chief inspector of borders and immigration inspection that found: “use of off the shelf excel spreadsheets and high attrition rates amongst case workers”


This is backed by research undertaken by Yorkshire byline times


“Why the Home Office is failing so dismally in processing asylum applications”

Why the Home Office is failing so dismally in processing asylum applications

John Cole examines the appalling asylum processing record of the Home Office and asks are the failures systemic or from the top?

yorkshirebylines.co.uk

I made an observation that the game had changed. It clearly has.

 

[Roy Bloom]

HMOs have always existed. It was the norm for families to share houses.

True, but it does need some regulation and possibly regular control and even inspection, especially when neighbours raise their concerns.

 

[Roy Bloom]

I made an observation that the game had changed. It clearly has.

Then explain how there are 110,000 on a backlog of asylum applications,(for those waiting over 6 months. then a further 40,000 for those waiting less than 6 months) when the total 'boat arrivals' over 5 years is only about 100,000.
That's about 7 - 8 years of 'boat arrivals'. (Brexit happened in 2016, 2018 or 2020 depending on what you determine as brexit. )
The system isn't broken, it isn't 'changed', it's just stopped working, for about 7 years.