Death in the channel…again

I think all those gullible Brexers that voted to leave the EU are now feeling bitterly disappointed, lied to and and let down.
These gullible brexers you speak of do you think they thought politicians would change their spots from the lying, duplicitous, scheming, self aggrandizing t*ats they were.?
 
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These gullible brexers you speak of do you think they thought politicians would change their spots from the lying, duplicitous, scheming, self aggrandizing t*ats they were.?
I think they fell for a well funded campaign, yes.

Brexit - where the 'winners' are the most disappointed. (y)
 
I think they fell for a well funded campaign, yes.

Brexit - where the 'winners' are the most disappointed. (y)
The term you use disappointed is the wrong term, the term is, not surprised. Anybody with a basic grounding in politics have low expectations of politicians, which seemingly you don't if you think they would be 'disappointed'
 
How many remainers when they voted knew about the EUs plans to broaden it's horizons, after all Cameron said it should go as far as the Urals. Looks like Guy wants to get on with it again after a pause and whose to pay for taking on these pi*s poor countries?

 
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These gullible brexers you speak of do you think they thought politicians would change their spots from the lying, duplicitous, scheming, self aggrandizing t*ats they were.?
So you are saying Brexit supporter knew politicians lie but they were still happy to vote for Brexit because politicians told them it was great.


perhaps you can talk me through the logic
 
How many remainers when they voted knew about the EUs plans to broaden it's horizons

as an EU member UK had control of 99% of its finances and EU had virtually no influence if at all on domestic politics.

so what’s your point
 
The logic is quite simple.
You'll never know if you don't have a go.
It's proved if it was ever in doubt having been flushed out how rotten to the core they are and how they are now desperately they are trying to keep the sh*t show on the road now the public have seen behind the curtain.
Thanks call me Dave, you sure opened up a can of worms when you called that referendum.
 
as an EU member UK had control of 99% of its finances and EU had virtually no influence if at all on domestic politics.

so what’s your point
So you thought it would always stay like that?
 
as an EU member UK had control of 99% of its finances and EU had virtually no influence if at all on domestic politics.

so what’s your point
No control over domestic politics now you really are barking.
 
So Brexit only helped the wealthy


how did it save you 20% VAT, businesses don’t pay VAT

So you are saying EU workers were lazy, only U.K. workers are hard working.
No I'm saying UK employees are more attractive because UK employment law gives employers flexibility. I can hire a UK worker with zero risk and if they don't perform within the first 2 years I can terminate the contract. In most parts of Europe that probation is less than 6 month and in many areas, I have to compensate them for the loss of their job.
 
No, they are not illegal immigrants.
You are simply wrong.


The bill is illegal

it can’t be a law as it can’t be implemented

If you think it is a law then please show me where all those arriving by small boat have been arrested and put in jail
There is no Bill - it has passed in to law. See: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2023/37/section/1/enacted
It is phased. Why do you think it is illegal? There is nothing to implement.

Shoplifting is illegal show me where every shop lifter is arrested and put in jail.

Where do you think the act says everyone arriving will be arrested and put in jail?
 
Afghanistan to the UK by boat would be quite a challenge notwithstanding the ~500 miles of land before you get to the sea. Surely there must be somewhere closer that is safe?
 
Surely there must be somewhere closer that is safe?
People make all sorts of decisions when leaving their own country. Language, family, friends, all sorts of things.

If only there was some way of checking applications before they arrived...
 
These gullible brexers you speak of do you think they thought politicians would change their spots from the lying, duplicitous, scheming, self aggrandizing t*ats they were.?

The public had real concerns - Tory austerity wasn't working and will never work so to placate them they throught up the plan of Brexit to solve all the ill - blame them on the EU when they were home grown issues.

We have had Brexit and the issues still persist as we have the same Government and policies. Until you change the direction of the UK government nothing will change and the biggest obstacle to that is the Media convincing people there are simple solutions to highly comples supranational problems.

You can go to a Dr with cancer and be told the truth that chemotherapy is nasty or you can go to a holistic medicine practioner and drink some raw unprocessed vegetables - the choice is yours but don't complain when you pick the faith healer.
 
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