Excess Deaths Debate 16th January 2024

[Notch7]

What are YOU trying to achieve, seems to me that it is to boost trust in the conservative government and pharmaceutical companies- who's very existence is predicated on profit. Do you not have any questions on how all of this panned out - no questions on the revolving door from regulators to executives in pharmaceutical companies. Can you not -- did you not -- could you not smell ANYTHING !. Those who did not want THIS vax could smell something and had questions - they are not murderers covidiodiots and all the other tropes some people maintain.
Do you trust implicitly every thing you are and were told by your Borris lead government. --- Yeh yeh you trust the science but the Gov science advisers have come out in the enquiry saying they did not agree with what the gov were saying and did not advise them this /that or the other.
So this is not just about you but all the others who it seems will go to their coincidental heart attack graves defending. --- Why - what are you trying to achieve.
Some of us could see - could smell that rat - had a feeling we were not being properly informed about everything - were being controlled by gov "nudge" units and worse. Its not nut jobs - its not anti vexers its just healthy people with questions not trusting the Gov.
What is your skin in the game - are you a conservative supporter - do you and the others have shares in the pharma industry. What are you hiding - why are yo defending the Gov. Why are you doing their dirty, dodgy work for them.

You are conflating opportunistic profiteering with conspiracy theories.

You conveniently forget during most of 2020 the world faced a nasty virus with no vaccine.

Yes we know perfectly well there are questions to be asked about Pharmas influence on regulatory approval, govt contracts etc….but the fact remains the vaccine played a huge part in allowing life to return to normal and saved millions of lives.

yes we know the vaccine has led to deaths and side effects, but we also know the benefits outweighed the benefits for the vast majority of the population.

 

[aveatry]

yes we know the vaccine has led to deaths and side effects, but we also know the benefits outweighed the benefits for the vast majority of the population.

Well that a first admission from you then. So if you agree that it HAS caused deaths why do you continue to lambast those who looked at their own health and decided to take the very slim chance that they will die from covid compared to the unknown long term side affects of a new gean therapy medication. Provided by a company whose very aim is to make money.
Not tin foil - not - anti vax - not none of those-- just people who did not believe borris johnson/ dom cummings/ matt hancock

 

[Justin Passing]

Well that a first admission from you then. So if you agree that it HAS caused deaths why do you continue to lambast those who looked at their own health and decided to take the very slim chance that they will die from covid compared to the unknown long term side affects of a new gean therapy medication. Provided by a company whose very aim is to make money.
Not tin foil - not - anti vax - not none of those-- just people who did not believe borris johnson/ dom cummings/ matt hancock

You can make an argument like that qualitatively, but as soon as you put the numbers to it, it's juvenile crap.

 

[noseall]

they are not murderers covidiodiots

Not murderous, but they are idiots. Some must have an inability to read simple text or just listen.

 

[noseall]

Well that a first admission from you then. So if you agree that it HAS caused deaths why do you continue to lambast those who looked at their own health and decided to take the very slim chance that they will die from covid compared to the unknown long term side affects of a new gean therapy medication. Provided by a company whose very aim is to make money.
Not tin foil - not - anti vax - not none of those-- just people who did not believe borris johnson/ dom cummings/ matt hancock

Covid vax, the safest medicine the world has ever seen boyo - FACT. Yet these same people take paracetamol and give Calpol to their kids, lol.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

What are YOU trying to achieve, seems to me that it is to boost trust in the conservative government and pharmaceutical companies- who's very existence is predicated on profit. Do you not have any questions on how all of this panned out - no questions on the revolving door from regulators to executives in pharmaceutical companies. Can you not -- did you not -- could you not smell ANYTHING !. Those who did not want THIS vax could smell something and had questions - they are not murderers covidiodiots and all the other tropes some people maintain.
Do you trust implicitly every thing you are and were told by your Borris lead government. --- Yeh yeh you trust the science but the Gov science advisers have come out in the enquiry saying they did not agree with what the gov were saying and did not advise them this /that or the other.
So this is not just about you but all the others who it seems will go to their coincidental heart attack graves defending. --- Why - what are you trying to achieve.
Some of us could see - could smell that rat - had a feeling we were not being properly informed about everything - were being controlled by gov "nudge" units and worse. Its not nut jobs - its not anti vexers its just healthy people with questions not trusting the Gov.
What is your skin in the game - are you a conservative supporter - do you and the others have shares in the pharma industry. What are you hiding - why are yo defending the Gov. Why are you doing their dirty, dodgy work for them.

Captain hindsight.

 

[Brigadier]

Covid vax, the safest medicine the world has ever seen boyo - FACT. Yet these same people take paracetamol and give Calpol to their kids, lol.

And like to dab their nose at the weekend, with whatever their mates can get their hands on.

 

[Deleted member 221031]

And like to dab their nose at the weekend, with whatever their mates can get their hands on.

You lads like to make things up! lol

 

[denso13]

What are YOU trying to achieve,

I respond to conspiracy nonsense. These threads are invariably started by tinfoil hatters, but why? What do you want? An apology?

Do you not have any questions on how all of this panned out

Of course I do, so what? That doesn't make it a scam.

no questions on the revolving door from regulators to executives in pharmaceutical companies

That didn't happen. It was gassers claim which i can easily disprove, but he bottled it.

Do you trust implicitly every thing you are and were told by your Borris lead government

How many times...no. The science is better measure of the truth.

Yeh yeh you trust the science but the Gov science advisers have come out in the enquiry saying they did not agree with what the gov were saying

There you go then.

to their coincidental heart attack graves defending. --- Why - what are you trying to achieve.

I'm pushing back on conspiracy theories. Like "heart attack graves", tinfoil hatters can't help themselves.

Some of us could see - could smell that rat

What rat?

are you a conservative supporter

Far from it.

do you and the others have shares in the pharma industry.

I don't, no.

why are yo defending the Gov.

How many times...

who's very existence is predicated on profit.

Like any other business on the planet.

 

[denso13]

to take the very slim chance that they will die from covid compared to the unknown long term side affects

Much higher chance of dying of covid than the vaccine. That is just a fact.

of a new gean therapy medication.

Tinfoil hatter nonsense.

Provided by a company whose very aim is to make money.

Like all other companies you mean?

Not tin foil - not - anti vax - not none of those

Yes, you clearly are.

 

[Notch7]

Well that a first admission from you then.

WRONG

Ive stated many times in this forum that the vaccine has caused deaths and some serious side effects

I have looked at the yellow card reporting of side effects, Ive looked at the evidence on myocarditis and other heart problems

but unlike you, Ive looked at it in the context of risk...which is very small


Please avoid making the assumption that other people can research things and take a balanced view

 

[Deleted member 221031]

Yes, you clearly are.

He said he isn’t, but YOU decide he is!

Time to get off the horse Denny.

 

[Deleted member 221031]

Please avoid making the assumption that other people can research things and take a balanced view

That makes no sense. But most of your posts don’t.

 

[denso13]

but YOU decide he is!

His words prove he is.

 

[Deleted member 221031]

His words prove he is.

In YOUR opinion.

All hail King Denny. The GD’s self appointed Covid expert. Yawn