Expanded ULEZ

[SirGalahad]

So you are upset at a concept. An idea.

 

[gant]

As I say do some research it'll save shooting from the hip.

 

[SirGalahad]

As I say do some research it'll save shooting from the hip.

I have there is nothing out there its just a concept and you seem to have run with it.

If you cannot defend your stance then you have no view on it other than it being superficial so easy to dismiss. If you truly believe in it then you would argue for or against it. Either way it seems you have been taken by the marketing spin - be wary of what it says on the tin.

Don't let them fill your head with ideas - let them explain the issue with concrete evidence.

 

[fillyboy]

So you are upset at a concept. An idea.

The Common Market was a reasonable concept.

 

[gant]

I have there is nothing out there its just a concept and you seem to have run with it.

If you cannot defend your stance then you have no view on it other than it being superficial so easy to dismiss. If you truly believe in it then you would argue for or against it. Either way it seems you have been taken by the marketing spin - be wary of what it says on the tin.

Don't let them fill your head with ideas - let them explain the issue with concrete evidence.

Don't make yourself look gormless tonight, when you get on that thunderbox tomorrow do a bit of research.

 

[JohnD]

take 2 mins to learn a tiny bit about the weather and you will understand a lot more about why a tax on apparently 10% of vehicles in Greater London will make zero to negligible difference to air quality.

Have you been in the Euston underpass?

 

[JohnD]

I could have cut it down to one but I wasn't in full on Marxist mode.

Can you link to Marx' writings on car ownership please.

 

[gant]

More fool you if you think there is one, it was a joke (poor one)about Marxists would have us living in sack cloths and ashes while the hierarchy made merry.

 

[motorbiking]

Have you been in the Euston underpass?

Last I checked. It wasn’t in the expanded ULEZ zone.

 

[JohnD]

take 2 mins to learn a tiny bit about the weather and you will understand a lot more about why a tax on apparently 10% of vehicles in Greater London will make zero to negligible difference to air quality.

"Greater London" is what you said.

Have you been in the Euston Underpass?

 

[motorbiking]

This thread is about the expansion of ULEZ to all of Greater London and whether it can be justified.

The air quality in a central London tunnel would seem somewhat irrelevant. Do you think the air in the tunnel is effected by ULEZ expansion? Or are you trolling with a straw man ?

 

[JohnD]

take 2 mins to learn a tiny bit about the weather and you will understand a lot more about why a tax on apparently 10% of vehicles in Greater London will make zero to negligible difference to air quality.

So you started going on about Greater London, and now you've changed your mind.

Or the whole country

If only we had a national system that charged vehicles accordingly. Perhaps an annual charge based on emissions and the another based on usage. Probable too hard to implement. Oh wait…

 

[motorbiking]

ahh - trolling again, it is

Or do you have an opinion about the effectiveness of the ULEZ expansion regarding its stated goals?

 

[JohnD]

So you started going on about Greater London, and now you've changed your mind.

Or the whole country

You just try inventing objections and see if you get away with them.

Like you based an argument on a press release which was a total invention.

 

[motorbiking]

so that will be a no then.