Faith Schools

Should we have faith schools in the UK

  • No

    Votes: 16 84.2%
  • Yes

    Votes: 3 15.8%

  • Total voters
    19
  • Poll closed .
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It doesn't. And the more I see of some cults, the more I'm glad that they don't want to integrate with me. The feeling is 100% mutual. Many of them dislike our Western values, but for some reason don't have the courage of their convictions. They're not averse to our Western housing, Western benefits or Western health service, etc, etc though. Strange. :rolleyes:

We should go back to having the only faith schools based on Christian basis and values. If others want their own, they can either finance them for themselves or get back on the next boat to where their faith is catered for.
 
I think there should be no state funding of anything religious, and education should be totally secular with only some education about religion, rather than teaching a religion.

The majority of English people are not churchgoers , not really Christian , so why pay to educate their children in something they don't believe in themselves.

' The Lord will provide ', believers say.

Well let him then.


Scotland and NI have their own laws , so seperate
 
I'm not religious, but all the schools I attended had Christian assemblies, and operated under general Christian values and principles. Even the few (and in those days it was mercifully few) from other cultures and religions used to attend these assemblies.

Religion wasn't forced on us in an oppressive way, and as we were all more or less in it together back then, we just went along with it. It was all unthreatening and harmless. I think the feeling was, sing a few hymns and say the odd prayer, but more importantly, try to live your life according to Christian morals and values. There were no expectations of worship, etc after leaving school. They set you on a course and it was up to you wether you followed it or not. Looking at the alternatives, I'm glad that's the way it was and wouldn't change anything about it.
 
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I'm not religious, but all the schools I attended had Christian assemblies, and operated under general Christian values and principles. Even the few (and in those days it was mercifully few) from other cultures and religions used to attend these assemblies.

Religion wasn't forced on us in an oppressive way, and as we were all more or less in it together back then, we just went along with it. It was all unthreatening and harmless. I think the feeling was, sing a few hymns and say the odd prayer, but more importantly, try to live your life according to Christian morals and values. There were no expectations of worship, etc after leaving school. They set you on a course and it was up to you wether you followed it or not. Looking at the alternatives, I'm glad that's the way it was and wouldn't change anything about it.

I think it's more about cultural values than religious ones.Why don't we just be honest about it, rather than saying things we don't believe in and making children do the same.

If you don't obey the commandments, believe in the NewTestament,and that Jesus was a God , then you're not a Christian. You can have good values whether you are one or not, but I think it's not true that saying things you don't believe in makes you a better person? Why pretend we are Christian, why not not just give ourselves credit for being a nice bunch of people and lose the crutch?
 
The bottom line is that we'd all insist upon attendance of our "broadly Christian" schools, regardless of their home backgrounds. This seems entirely consistent with the wishes of other countries/cultures within their territories. If one doesn't wish to comply, then don't try to join the "club"
 
How does integration work with faith schools?

It does... to a point.

From my own experience in teaching at a CofE primary school, the Religious Education curriculum included Christianity, Judaism and Islam in equal measure except for a daily Christian assembly. Class visits to all three places of worship took place as well.

To me, that sounds like an attempt to educate children in the bases of all three religions which could lead to an understanding of others and possibly integration.

I wonder whether muslim schools provide such educational visits to churches and synagogues. I don't know, but the impression I get is that, certainly, if they ever set foot in a synagogue they'd burst into flames, just as if they'd eaten pork!
 
How does integration work with faith schools?

It does... to a point.

From my own experience in teaching at a CofE primary school, the Religious Education curriculum included Christianity, Judaism and Islam in equal measure except for a daily Christian assembly. Class visits to all three places of worship took place as well.

To me, that sounds like an attempt to educate children in the bases of all three religions which could lead to an understanding of others and possibly integration.

I wonder whether muslim schools provide such educational visits to churches and synagogues. I don't know, but the impression I get is that, certainly, if they ever set foot in a synagogue they'd burst into flames, just as if they'd eaten pork!
Forgive me if I'm incorrect, but Judaism is considerably older than Christianity or islam. Which one, therefore, has more credibility?
 
How does integration work with faith schools?

It does... to a point.

From my own experience in teaching at a CofE primary school, the Religious Education curriculum included Christianity, Judaism and Islam in equal measure except for a daily Christian assembly. Class visits to all three places of worship took place as well.

To me, that sounds like an attempt to educate children in the bases of all three religions which could lead to an understanding of others and possibly integration.

I wonder whether muslim schools provide such educational visits to churches and synagogues. I don't know, but the impression I get is that, certainly, if they ever set foot in a synagogue they'd burst into flames, just as if they'd eaten pork!
Forgive me if I'm incorrect, but Judaism is considerably older than Christianity or islam. Which one, therefore, has more credibility?

None. God is man made.
 
I assume that your parents have died. Have you really no hope that theirg souls continue to exist?

Does 'hope' make for rational decisions?
I suspect that "hope" may be what makes humans unique and may well help to justify a belief of the existence of a god. I cannot emphasize enough, however, that this god has sod all to do with any man made religion. I believe that it is simultaneously rational and irrational for there to be a god, which is fair enough :) but entirely irrational to assume that one has to jump through strange hoops and say weird sentences in order to have inner peace and external harmony. I don't think that a god really needs its ego massaged, and I really don't think that it would want any human to kill another human in its name. Somehow, I suspect that if "he" really did manage to create all of this, then he'd have found a better way.
 
I assume that your parents have died. Have you really no hope that their souls continue to exist?

Of course not. When you're dead, you're dead.

Now, I'm afraid I cannot continue this discussion as I am dying with man-flu and prefer to die in my bed. Goodnight.

Well, I seem to have pulled through, although it was touch and go at one point.
 
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