Farage, the PM we need?

[aveatry]

Why would Vladimir Farage be “the PM we need”?



Islamophobia, the Great Replacement Theory, and GB News are key elements in the Russian propaganda networks supporting the Reform Party

A ‘Russia Hoax’ or Russian Hopes? How Putin’s Troll Farms are Boosting Nigel Farage’s Campaigns – Again​

Nigel Farage made regular paid appearances on the Russian state channel, and his Leave.EU campaign directly repurposed RT’s Islamophobic propaganda

Two of the Facebook accounts identified as part of this pro-Kremlin network were called Common Sense Britain and UK Patriots – the latter doubly ironic given the account’s likely foreign origins – both of which appear to be big supporters of the Reform Party.

A 'Russia Hoax' or Russian Hopes? How Putin’s Troll Farms are Boosting Nigel Farage’s Campaigns – Again

Islamophobia, the Great Replacement Theory, and GB News are key elements in the Russian propaganda networks supporting the Reform Party

bylinetimes.com

Sounds like a complete fruitcake conspiracy theory to me. and a lot of random dots joined up to make nonsense.

 

[Sunshine32]

What you have to realise is that they like to give it out but they do not like getting it back - but the problem is they are protected and your post will be removed and theirs stay.

Has it always been like that here? I use this site rarely so I don’t know how things work. It’s a bit weird that those who are probably the closest to me on political values have attacked without mercy. It doesn’t make sense. It’s making rethink stuff very seriously though... I would have said I was centre left but what happened here today has really put me off.

 

[aveatry]

Has it always been like that here? I use this site rarely so I don’t know how things work. It’s a bit weird that those who are probably the closest to me on political values have attacked without mercy. It doesn’t make sense. It’s making rethink stuff very seriously though... I would have said I was centre left but what happened here today has really put me off.

It has been hijacked by the RRL Rabid Radicalised Left

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Oh God... what do they do when they don’t like you then

It’s too much for me, after tonight I won’t be posting for quite sometime if ever. It’s taken over my entire day pretty much and I can’t say i’ve benefited from it.

It's ok as long as you don't get drawn in. Their are plenty of liberal saddos on here who spend all day bashing the bishop in their bedroom at their Mum's house in between waiting to pounce on anyone who they can inflict their left wing sense of moral superiority on. Just laugh them off and everything will be fine.

 

[Sunshine32]

Apparently, believing in having a welfare state, a public healthcare system, reducing the number of unelected quangos the people didn't vote for and honouring the outcomes of our democratic system of government makes me far-right, not left leaning and a troll.

To those of you who are actually on the right, do I look like one of you? I mean seriously. And yet, you have been the nicest of the bunch.

I need to rethink my stance.

 

[fillyboy]

To those of you who are actually on the right, do I look like one of you? I mean seriously. And yet, you have been the nicest of the bunch.

I need to rethink my stance.

I'm right of centre, although some on here would describe me as being right of Genghis Khan. I'm not of course. The left on here, whom you've encountered over the course of the day, are nothing short of extremists.
I would add, don't let it put you off, teasing the daft ****s is good fun, sometimes really good fun.

 

[Sunshine32]

Nah, they can go and f**k themselves. I think it's different if you're on opposing sides but not when you experience it from your own team. There is a bitter taste in my mouth. Fools. All they're doing is alienating everyone closely or similarly aligned.

 

[Sunshine32]

Thanks to the posters who didn't want my blood and to all the others, good luck cos you'll f***ing need it.

Bye

 

[Gone Skiing]

There is only one definition of democracy isn’t there?

I think the BBC do a good job of explaining it and how it works.

I don’t have anything to add to their analysis.

There maybe one definition of democracy, but it doesn't explain how it is implemented and followed.
I think that you completely misunderstand the concept of democracy. This post illustrates how your understanding is miles off:

No, I want the politicians the people democratically elect to fulfill the promises they made to the people who elected them.
I think they call this democracy.
It's been a very long time since we had that.

The BBC article tells us what democracy is, how governments are elected, what those levels of government do, how one can be involved in an election, but none of that explains how democracy is implemented and followed.

It was your assertion that democracy is implemented and followed, so please explain how democracy is implemented and who ensures it is followed.

All you posted were links to an explanation of what democracy is.
But you claimed democracy is "only implemented and followed".
I've now asked you numerous times to explain how democracy is implemented, and who ensures it is followed.
You refuse to explain what you meant, so the obvious assumption is that you have no clue what you meant. You just trotted out some words that popped into your head without any understanding of what they meant.

Let me draw an analogy, to help you out, let's take a company with a board of directors, share holders, and employees:
how was it implemented, and who ensures the rules are followed?
I don't want an explanation about the company, I want your explanation about democracy being implemented and followed.

If you still refuse to explain, it can only be because you do not have the faintest idea of the meaning of the words that you use.

 

[Gone Skiing]

There are no more talking points himmy aka gone sking ( latest ID) so wind yer neck in and jog on

By the way you are on ignore

So if I am being ignored by you, it matters nothing to you if I continue to post.
Or did you think that you ignoring me meant that I am no longer allowed to participate in debates?
That isn't how the ignore function works. Perhaps someone will be kind enough to explain it to you, because you are under a false illusion of the function of the ignore option.

 

[Gone Skiing]

If that is true and Reform really plan to privatise the NHS once in power, it will be a NO from me. I will just spoil my vote instead.

So you supported Reform, but you were unaware of their policies?

 

[Gone Skiing]

We have democratic voting and outcomes all ready. You might not like the outcomes, but that's democracy for you

What you are saying is just word salad.

He has little comprehension of the words he uses.

 

[Gone Skiing]

I don’t think you are ‘central’ but you are a bully.

Holding someone to account for their opinions is not bullying, it's called discussion.
If you don't like being asked to explain your opinions, best keep them to yourself. Or just participate in anonymous polls where no-one is expected to explain themselves.

 

[Gone Skiing]

They liked what he told them before the election.

It's still not populism.

You do understand the differences ?

Oh but it is.

In that case, all manifestos can be described as populism, i.e. the winning party's manifesto is more popular than the manifestos of the smaller parties (by MPs elected)
On that basis political science has rejected the use of the word "Populism".
But there are other, more pejorative uses of the word.

 

[Gone Skiing]

Populism is (basically) anti the elite.

But it is proffered by the very elite that spout the loose words. The right wing telling you how bad they are if you dig into it.

Used in its pejorative context, which it usually is, it's used to denounce 'the other's policies' without actually going into detail.
Few people really understand its original context.
But today it is used so frequently, by all colours of the political spectrum, that its meaning has been conflated and confused.
But your explanation comes within reaching distance of the original sense of the word.