Fire Brigade strikes

[joe-90]

A window cleaner has a more dangerous job.

 

[Spark123]

I don't know about more dangerous, yes there are risks involved but will generally remain unchanged and manageable when cleaning windows.

 

[joe-90]

A risk assessment on every house and window cleaned? That's the Fire Brigade way. They have one of the safest jobs in the country. "If in doubt - stay out".

 

[Spark123]

Yes, a professional windowcleaner will do a risk assessment - even if it is only in their own head.

 

[wreckedit]

A window cleaner has a more dangerous job.

The window cleaners I see today don't have to go up a ladder. But, they may trip over their 'ose

Quote 'Maybe we should use them for fire fighting instead and get rid of the fire people'

 

[joe-90]

The Fire Brigade want it in writing.

 

[Johndug]

My mate retired from the LFB about five years ago. I remember him telling me how he loved being on a 15 hour night shift. A couple of hours maintenance work, followed by watching some DVD's, followed by some kip until there was a call - if there was one. A few nights of that then he was off for 4 days keeping his gardener customers happy.

 

[snico]

A window cleaner has a more dangerous job.

I am yet to see a window cleaner fight his way through flames, smoke and falling ceilings etc just to clean a window!

 

[imamartian]

But i do wonder why the fire brigade to seem to strike over seemingly minor things.... isn't it changed work hours this time?

It isn't just over the change of shift pattern, it is about being threatened with the sack for not accepting the change in shift pattern.

You go to work for a company who is trying to achieve something, managed by people who can (?) effectively run that company. Therefore, they have decided they need to change the shift patterns..you are paid to accept that... it doesn't matter whether it affects your bingo night, or whether you can get childcare... get real !!! You don't have to like it... but you do have to accept it.

strange comments you are assuming the management are right by your comments overiding your question marks and suggest they accept the outcome

they have both signed a contract off employment which is a legal document
they cannot be dissaplined or punished if they work to the contract BY LAW

they are in negotiations the employer chooses to try and break the legal contract is it wrong that the firefighter get the aarse and counter the measures

unlike the employers who seem to be free without legal recourse to threaten to sack people the unions must hold a ballet and give a weeks warning off there action

both sides in this argument of course have an agenda but you seem to think contracts only apply to one side

just remember the only reason the unions flourished in the public sector was because they where poorly paid and there skills where only within the public sector so not transferable

of course now these a bit more choice with council/government run services taken over but not all

i wasn't suggesting contracts are for one side only... but a contract of employment usually is quite one sided. My error was to speak from the point of not having seen the contract, and my assumption that it will say something like:

"shift patterns may vary..."

I strongly believe that if a company acts outside of the contract, then a strike is perfectly the right thing to do !

BTW i would love to see a union hold a ballet instead of a ballot

 

[joinerjohn]

Apparently the main reason they don't want the shift changes is because, they reckon it will leave them with less time with their families.
It's been in the paper recently that quite a few of the firefighters don't live in London either. One commutes from Majorca and others are spread all over the country. They share rooms when they are off shift then go home at the end of their last shift for 4 days before returning to do it all over again.
They are paid the London weighting on their salaries although they don't live in the capital.

 

[Deleted member 105431]

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/n...ire_crews_condemned_my_son_to_death_1_1589345


brave firemen?

 

[imamartian]

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/local/devastated_mum_fire_crews_condemned_my_son_to_death_1_1589345


brave firemen?

that's not a question of bravery (or lack of)...if you read the story...

"But an inquest at Kettering Coroner’s Court heard no firefighters were allowed to enter the water until a specialist water rescue team arrived."

 

[snico]

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/local/devastated_mum_fire_crews_condemned_my_son_to_death_1_1589345


brave firemen?

yes........http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/8609612.stm

 

[imamartian]

it takes an idiot to suggest that firefighters aren't brave in their work.

And as i suspect DM46 is also Joe90 - who started this - then it's just a pathetic wind up.

 

[joe-90]

I thought you were leaving. More taxi drivers die than firemen. Bunch of prima donnas.