I know how difficult it is - it always has been. Those who are determined get through. He'll only ever be a labourer unless he does the proper qualifications, in the right order. Trying to rush things just doesn't work - if he wants to earn decent money, he needs to be prepared to go through the process
Gas exams?
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Some of the stuff posted here, not just this thread, makes me laugh.. wrote some cutting retorts, then erased these as every visitor who comes here should be allowed to say what he or she wants to say, right or wrong.
Who needs TV, reading some replies is good fun
Who needs TV, reading some replies is good fun
Thanks everyone for your answers, I obviously have no idea how the plumbing/ gas exams etc work, so hopefully you clever lot can put me straight.
Last year I passed my NVQ level3 in printing, I was advised that taking level 2 wasn't worth it as I was a 'mature student', I jumped in and passed level 3 without a problem.
Can that be done with plumbing? if a person gets their NVQ 3 does that mean they are then gas safe or do more exams have to be done? what is the guild of gas fitting exams?
Last year I passed my NVQ level3 in printing, I was advised that taking level 2 wasn't worth it as I was a 'mature student', I jumped in and passed level 3 without a problem.
Can that be done with plumbing? if a person gets their NVQ 3 does that mean they are then gas safe or do more exams have to be done? what is the guild of gas fitting exams?
Is that you or the SIL??!! I'm confused now!!
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One also has to ask - why is he not asking the question?
In theory he could go straight for NVQ3, but this might leave gaps in his basic knowledge and understanding which would normally be covered by NVQ2. A lot of colleges will expect you to have NVQ2 before accepting you for NVQ3 as they don't want to risk you holding the rest of the class back. Gas exams are additional to NVQ3 and are taken at the end of the NVQ3 course. Once the exams have been successfully completed, Gas Safe registration can be applied for (with payment of the appropriate fee) and a probationary period of not less than three months will commence
Don't they have to fill in a portfolio of work between the NVQ and the assessment for Gas?
Yup ... recommended would be 6189 Lvl2 (NVQ2) for basic pipe skills in soldering and laying out etc, really quite essential for good gas work. NVQ3 for advanced work in design and theory in hot and cold water systems and central heating design, again recommended if that is the proposed career direction. The NVQ's also give critical all round on site experience.
Then it's onto the course for the Gas foundation cert, needed before a portfolio is allowed to be created, a Class 1 course with a 6189 NVQ3 or class 2/3 without an NVQ. There's less work in the class 1 foundation course as course material is covered with the Level 3 work & then as Dan mentions, there's around 150 hours of practical onsite work creating a portfolio with a GSR engineer out in the wild, prior to being allowed to sit the ACS final exams. Once all that's done then it's register with Gas Safe.
Then it's onto the course for the Gas foundation cert, needed before a portfolio is allowed to be created, a Class 1 course with a 6189 NVQ3 or class 2/3 without an NVQ. There's less work in the class 1 foundation course as course material is covered with the Level 3 work & then as Dan mentions, there's around 150 hours of practical onsite work creating a portfolio with a GSR engineer out in the wild, prior to being allowed to sit the ACS final exams. Once all that's done then it's register with Gas Safe.
Unless of course you are employed by one of the big six energy suppliers, where Gas safe will bow down and allow CCC to just attend 16 weeks at college, and you will be qualified, and only open to internal audits with no gas safe visits, absolute joke this industry now
Why am I asking the questions?...................that's easily answered, he's a youngster, and with all the young, they need a bit of steering in the right direction because left to think for themselves they'll make a right funk up! (I think it has a lot to do with an excessive amount of testosterone diluting down the ability to think coherently)...............always best if the elderly do the thinking. So far, I have steered him off signing up for one of those full time gas courses and I've got him a start with this heating bloke, might as well finish the job off n get him on the correct courses so that one day he might actually hatch out into something useful and have the correct bits of paper!
Respectfully, he's 23... By that age some of us had been living on our own for 5 years, been gainfully employed for 8 years, completed an honours degree, and got CORGI (as was) registered.
If he wants to improve his position, he needs to think for himself. Any future employer/mentor is going to be unimpressed if a parent or guardian is speaking for an applicant.
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Maybe think about getting trained to be a dual fuel meter exchange operative.
Not the most glamorous of jobs but a steady job and the top guys will be retained at the end of the exchange programme to deal with faulty meters. Get in quick thou as these jobs are being picked up by ex military people who have shown they have the "get up and go attitude".
DIYedboy,what work are you in/were ,maybe you have contacts and can sort something out. Or think of buying a franchise for him and yourself (you a partner).
Good luck,
Not the most glamorous of jobs but a steady job and the top guys will be retained at the end of the exchange programme to deal with faulty meters. Get in quick thou as these jobs are being picked up by ex military people who have shown they have the "get up and go attitude".
DIYedboy,what work are you in/were ,maybe you have contacts and can sort something out. Or think of buying a franchise for him and yourself (you a partner).
Good luck,
Dan, Dan, Dan, there are all sorts of 23yr olds isn't there?, on the one hand there's you.....................a superhero with a brain the size of a planet and a high achiever that comes flying out of life's starting gate like an exocet missile on a career path to glory......................and then there's the rest of us that are basically worker ants that don't have any grand plan, are content to dobble along and are restricted by having only average intelligence sprinkled with some immaturity and being easy going and somehow have to teeter through life's minefield trying not to step on one!
It's easy to criticise anyone, but we must ask ourself whether this is in any way helpful..............and what does this actually say about the person that finds it necessary to criticise rather than help
It's easy to criticise anyone, but we must ask ourself whether this is in any way helpful..............and what does this actually say about the person that finds it necessary to criticise rather than help
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