Yes, it's tough when you're struggling to be average.....
I know someone of around that age and his mum was completing job application forms for him !
Gas exams?
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I know someone of around that age and his mum was completing job application forms for him !
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The whole point of the NVQ2 and NVQ3 is that it was intended to be a complete course covering theory and practice.
The intention is that it is to be training which goes with an apprenticeship with day release!
It is possible to just take the gas ACS exams. But they try to limit access to the exams to people who are or have worked in the industry ( or even allied trades like electricians ) but the requirements seem to have become rather blurred of late. For money you can buy a crash course of practical experience to get you past that hurdle.
When you apply for gas registration there are two possibilities, an addition to an existing RGI's work force for which it is just pay the money of under £100 for a year.
To apply as a sole person they expect a portfolio of work experience and then a probation period.
But a loophole perhaps is that someone who has been registered with an existing RGI can get sole registration after being registered on a workforce for a while even though they might never have done any gas work.
Practically the arrangements work reasonable well and RGIs are subject to meetings and work inspections during the early years. If any are found to be seriously lacking they can be suspended from the gas register.
Tony
The intention is that it is to be training which goes with an apprenticeship with day release!
It is possible to just take the gas ACS exams. But they try to limit access to the exams to people who are or have worked in the industry ( or even allied trades like electricians ) but the requirements seem to have become rather blurred of late. For money you can buy a crash course of practical experience to get you past that hurdle.
When you apply for gas registration there are two possibilities, an addition to an existing RGI's work force for which it is just pay the money of under £100 for a year.
To apply as a sole person they expect a portfolio of work experience and then a probation period.
But a loophole perhaps is that someone who has been registered with an existing RGI can get sole registration after being registered on a workforce for a while even though they might never have done any gas work.
Practically the arrangements work reasonable well and RGIs are subject to meetings and work inspections during the early years. If any are found to be seriously lacking they can be suspended from the gas register.
Tony
Like some others I am not impressed by the apparent lack of keenness of this SIL.
My question if he went to uni was never answered so it sounds as he has not. One wonders what he has done since leaving school. Not much by the sound of it.
At least he is working so that is useful even if it is not providing proper training or any career path.
It is good that someone is trying to help him even though he does not seem to have the enthusiasm to do anything for himself.
Tony
My question if he went to uni was never answered so it sounds as he has not. One wonders what he has done since leaving school. Not much by the sound of it.
At least he is working so that is useful even if it is not providing proper training or any career path.
It is good that someone is trying to help him even though he does not seem to have the enthusiasm to do anything for himself.
Tony
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Dan, of course I haven't missed your point.......................you've told us all how wonderful you are and (by comparison) what a useless tool my SIL is because he's not on this forum asking the questions himself.............I doubt he knows of this forum's existence because he don't own a property and therefore won't require DIY advice.
Agile, sorry for not answering your earlier question, no he hasn't been to uni, he has worked in retail since leaving school because he couldn't get anything else and being a likeable easy going lad has stayed within that field for far too long and therefore needs to make lots of ground up, he is bright and very capable mechanically and I intend to put a rocket up his rear end in order to turn him into what he is capable of becoming.
He is super keen, keeps emailing me CH diagrams and asks many questions, but like MOST young people, he isn't aware of the correct exam direction to follow because of all the choices from spurious colleges offering the world in 80 days!
Agile, sorry for not answering your earlier question, no he hasn't been to uni, he has worked in retail since leaving school because he couldn't get anything else and being a likeable easy going lad has stayed within that field for far too long and therefore needs to make lots of ground up, he is bright and very capable mechanically and I intend to put a rocket up his rear end in order to turn him into what he is capable of becoming.
He is super keen, keeps emailing me CH diagrams and asks many questions, but like MOST young people, he isn't aware of the correct exam direction to follow because of all the choices from spurious colleges offering the world in 80 days!
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rules&rulers
A lot has been said,a lot of guidance has been mentioned .
But at the end of the day its up to Sil and not yourself to decide his career path,he may hate you for your efforts.
Good luck,thou.
But at the end of the day its up to Sil and not yourself to decide his career path,he may hate you for your efforts.
Good luck,thou.
The advice here regarding ACS is spot on,my question goes to the roots, my opinion is that if he's already with a good RGI then he's made the best possible leap, if the RGI is good and growing his/her business then he/she would surely be happy to sponsor the SIL when they feel the SIL is ready? Especially if the SIL is willing to put in the extra evenings and undertake day release.
The industry is designed to be hard to get into, if you are not already an RGI you really need to know one. My advice is get the SIL to sit down with his RGI and explain what he wants to do and where he wants to go, he may loose some money because he's not grafting for a day or two in the week whilst at college, but the RGI (it he/she isn't not just out for some cheap help) will respect and boulster the lad and make a path to getting registered much smoother.
The small company I work for has put through 2 young adults now who were looking for careers over jobs, 1 has stayed with us and is a real asset, the other has moved on to his own things, but in saying that, we've had probably 10-12 young guys come through and end up being labour because they just don't have the drive themselves and as my old boss used to say, if you don't ask, you don't get.
Best of luck with him, but I personally feel it has to come from him, if he wants it, has a good work ethic and shows where he wants to be, it's possible.
The industry is designed to be hard to get into, if you are not already an RGI you really need to know one. My advice is get the SIL to sit down with his RGI and explain what he wants to do and where he wants to go, he may loose some money because he's not grafting for a day or two in the week whilst at college, but the RGI (it he/she isn't not just out for some cheap help) will respect and boulster the lad and make a path to getting registered much smoother.
The small company I work for has put through 2 young adults now who were looking for careers over jobs, 1 has stayed with us and is a real asset, the other has moved on to his own things, but in saying that, we've had probably 10-12 young guys come through and end up being labour because they just don't have the drive themselves and as my old boss used to say, if you don't ask, you don't get.
Best of luck with him, but I personally feel it has to come from him, if he wants it, has a good work ethic and shows where he wants to be, it's possible.
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rules&rulers
Yes i agree,it looks like a 23 year old pipe slave drew that
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durhamplumber
At age 23 he should definetly be on here asking his own questions.He is old enough for some tough love.,stand on his own two feet,whatever description you wish..Are you still going to ask his questions forever.He is not exactly a great advert for himself and independent intelligent thoughts on the job.
Dan is certainly not perfect, in fact a few times a year he even disagrees with me!
But this time I will disagree with him.
He is actually very special!
Instead of shirking at school he worked hard, got "A" levels and went to uni ( pity he chose a rather useless subject though but that's life! ).
He had a stroke of luck which no one else would usually get and ended up with a family gas firm at an age when others would still have been an apprentice.
But he works seven days a week and from about 6 am until 1.30 am. The only time off is when he has injured himself and ends up in hospital. His accidents are not normally in the workplace but instead pretending to be a 7 year old on a mountain bike!
So he has the drive and determination to work harder than any normal mortal.
But wonderful as that sounds, he may be working himself into an early grave!
Another one joins the fun......................
allow me to help you DP.............. this is a site for DIYer's to get help from kind hearted professionals that very graciously are prepared to do just that............ it's not a site for young lads trying to work out what professional exams they need to take...................he don't own a house, he don't do DIY............he won't know this site exists will he?...........BUT...................I do DIY and if I can ask a question to those that know and their useful advice (graciously given and thankfully received) can help my SIL then it's the least I can do to help him along the path..........................whadya think?
allow me to help you DP.............. this is a site for DIYer's to get help from kind hearted professionals that very graciously are prepared to do just that............ it's not a site for young lads trying to work out what professional exams they need to take...................he don't own a house, he don't do DIY............he won't know this site exists will he?...........BUT...................I do DIY and if I can ask a question to those that know and their useful advice (graciously given and thankfully received) can help my SIL then it's the least I can do to help him along the path..........................whadya think?
Almost correct.... I was CORGI registered and financially self sufficient before I took the business over. 8 was 24 when that happened. 
As for my degree's "usefulness", granted it is not directly relevant to my career path, but there is more to one's personal development in obtaining a degree than the degree itself.
As for my point to the op, you're getting responses from people why have done what your SIL wants to do, and we are the very people who might be looking at candidates for future employees /trainees.
Perhaps you should drop the defensiveness and look closely at the comments, questions and opinions given to you freely, honestly and without prejudice.
As for my degree's "usefulness", granted it is not directly relevant to my career path, but there is more to one's personal development in obtaining a degree than the degree itself.
As for my point to the op, you're getting responses from people why have done what your SIL wants to do, and we are the very people who might be looking at candidates for future employees /trainees.
Perhaps you should drop the defensiveness and look closely at the comments, questions and opinions given to you freely, honestly and without prejudice.
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That all depends on if someone is happy to spend 40 years working as a teacher, on a teacher's salary, until they retire!
Of course a few can ride out school politics and get promoted to higher levels on good salaries, but probably mostly maths and science graduates these days.
I cannot think of anything more boring than teaching the same syllabus every day for 40 years!
Of course some degrees like geology, engineering etc. can give rise to exciting jobs all over the world in interesting and sometimes dangerous places. They had a coup where I was working in the Middle East, and the new regime gave us in broadcasting an extra month's salary and a 20% pay increase.
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