Girl injured by 'exploding' phone charger on Bangor bus how?

[ericmark]

With my Nokia I carried a spare battery in my wallet, and the battery lasted around 3 days. My wife with a Iphone can't carry a spare battery there is no way to change is and the battery needs topping up many times a day.

This is the route problem one should be able to swap batteries be it to ensure it can't be activated in a plane or hospital or to simply swap when it becomes discharged.

I blame Apple for this for making a phone where you can't swap batteries.

 

[Monkeh]

When that's happened it can draw a lot more, up to the negotiated value (2A if the data pins are joined together as in wall-wart chargers).

No. No normal USB connector is rated 2A (1.8A for micro, 1.5A for full size), and normal USB hosts are not capable of supplying above 500mA for USB 2.0.

 

[mfarrow]

No. No normal USB connector is rated 2A (1.8A for micro, 1.5A for full size)

There is that conflict, yes, however my statement is still correct with regards to capacity of the port.

 

[ericmark]

A thought! It says as she plugged it in so could the phone have been using a coaxial power plug not USB and could the polarity have been wrong way around? It would seem first time it was used, so this could be the case?

 

[IJWS15]

With my Nokia I carried a spare battery in my wallet, and the battery lasted around 3 days. My wife with a Iphone can't carry a spare battery there is no way to change is and the battery needs topping up many times a day.

This is the route problem one should be able to swap batteries be it to ensure it can't be activated in a plane or hospital or to simply swap when it becomes discharged.

I blame Apple for this for making a phone where you can't swap batteries.

No - Blame apple for making a battery that won't last all day. Try turning the screen brightness down.

 

[JohnW2]

A thought! It says as she plugged it in so could the phone have been using a coaxial power plug not USB and could the polarity have been wrong way around? It would seem first time it was used, so this could be the case?

Don't they (chargers and/or devices to be charged) have the most basic of protections (a.k.a a diode) against that sort of issue?

Kind Regards, John

 

[JohnW2]

No - Blame apple for making a battery that won't last all day. Try turning the screen brightness down.

I don't think Apple make batteries If they could source one that would last all day and which was small enough to fit into whatever size of device they (and/or their customers) want, one would imagine that they wouldhave done - after all, 'long battery life' is a very strong selling point!

Kind Regards, John

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I blame Apple for this for making a phone where you can't swap batteries.

No - Blame apple for making a battery that won't last all day. Try turning the screen brightness down.

No - eric is quite right.

Other companies make phones where you can change the battery. Apple have deliberately chosen not to, so they are entirely to blame for people not being able to swap batteries. (Quickly and easily - I know that with the right tools and somewhere to work you can open the case of an iPhone and replace the battery, but that doesn't count.)

 

[JohnW2]

Apple have deliberately chosen not to, so they are entirely to blame for people not being able to swap batteries. (Quickly and easily .....)

That's obviously true. However, when batteries can be changed 'quickly and easily', that presumably means that many people will be carrying fully-charged batteries in their pockets/handbags/whatever, with the risk that, if not properly protected, their exposed terminals could be shorted by metallic objects (keys, coins, jewellery etc. etc.).

Kind Regards, John

 

[JohnD]

that presumably means that many people will be carrying fully-charged batteries in their pockets/handbags/whatever, with the risk that, if not properly protected, their exposed terminals could be shorted by metallic objects (keys, coins, jewellery etc. etc.).

Wrong

You are trying to make a virtue out of Apples silly design.

Almost everyone who does not have an Iphone has an easily swappable battery.

Very few of them carry spare batteries in their pockets.

I keep a spare at home and one in the car. They only cost a few pounds (unlike Apple's)

Most non Iphones will last a few days on a charged battery.

 

[JohnW2]

that presumably means that many people will be carrying fully-charged batteries in their pockets/handbags/whatever, with the risk that, if not properly protected, their exposed terminals could be shorted by metallic objects (keys, coins, jewellery etc. etc.).

Wrong. You are trying to make a virtue out of Apples silly design. Almost everyone who does not have an Iphone has an easily swappable battery. ...

Firstly, I'm no 'champion'of Apple - I do not posses, and never have possessed, even one Apple device, and probably never will - one of the major reasons being that none of them have 'easily changed batteries'!

Very few of them carry spare batteries in their pockets.

I certainly don't. However, this all started with:

With my Nokia I carried a spare battery in my wallet ...

I wonder what else he carries in his wallet - coins, perhaps? One would hope/imagine that eric would be very careful about such things, but the same is not necessarily true of Joe/Jane Public!

Most non Iphones will last a few days on a charged battery.

Then maybe, in the context of this discussion, the main issue with the iPhone design is the short life of their batteries (which might be a consequence of the desired device size?), rather than the fact that they are not easily changeable. If they 'lasted a few days' then, as with other phones, there would really be no need for people to carry spare batteries or to 'charge them on the run' - and eric would really not have a point to make!

Kind Regards, John

 

[AndyPRK]

I would be interested to know what iphone is not lasting for a day ?

And what you are doing with it!

I've known peoples last 2 days.

Switch it off at night is a good tip.

 

[RF Lighting]

Mine lasts between 3 days or half a day depending on how much I'm using it.

 

[ericmark]

I use Nokia my wife uses Apple. I have miss judged how long my battery will last in the main 3 days, but been caught out so with a bit of insulation tape across terminals I carry a spare. In the main not required my phone is used as a phone with the odd time when I use the sat nav.

My wife's phone however is also used as a games machine and she has to take every opportunity to charge it. Often this results in her leaving the house without it, and when she has got it the battery becoming discharged.

It's a great games machine but a useless mobile phone.

I also carry a pocket camera I don't use the one built into a phone and in the same way people could carry a dedicated games machine, and not use the phone for playing games.

But there is still that problem with apple of not being able to swap batteries, and combined with all the "Apps" included it means users are forced to use items which are to say the least a work around for the problem apple has caused.

I am told airlines now allow phones to be carried with batteries in them to allow people to carry apple phones in flight mode. However I got caught out in a hospital with a Nokia where I had set a reminder for an appointment. Although I switched the phone to flight mode this reminder turned it automatic back to standard mode so it started polling again.

To me there is only one way to ensure something does not turn on and that is remove the battery. I personally would ban all Iphones from aircraft.

 

[Monkeh]

I personally would ban all Iphones from aircraft.

For what possible reason?