Good Idea?

How often, was my point.

And most people won't do anywhere near that

It used to be, an annual trip down, plus of course a couple of weeks later, the reverse trip. Always a large, comfortable, well appointed car, with bags of spare power - driven overnight, completely effortless, usually a 7 /8 hour drive.
 
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Meaning, in answer to the post, it doesn't.

Why on earth you think you'll be able to get away with such a gross misrepresentation I have no idea.

The weight comes from the batteries.
More range equals more batteries equals greater weight.
More performance does not equal more weight, as the motors don't get any heavier really.

The more energy from the batteries which you consume to obtain "performance", the less you have available for "range".

Cars which prioritise "performance" will either have to have larger, heavier, batteries, or will have to have the marketing disadvantage of an uncompetitively short range.

A car which limits "performance" will be able to provide a longer range for a given battery capacity and will therefore need a smaller, lighter, battery to provide an acceptable, competitive range.

You may thank me later for preventing you from appearing to be deliberately obtuse.
 
Individuals, and their ability to concentrate, varies quite considerably. I've never had an issue staying alert behind the wheel, probably why I have a clean licence, and never been involved in an accident, despite probably driving millions of miles, in a wide variety of vehicles during my working career and privately.
I've seen exactly the same logic used by people arguing that they are OK to drive after a few drinks, possible even safer, as they know to concentrate harder.

You are as disgraceful as them.
 
But you can see what we're up against, here. Look at the number of folk who feel that life simply wouldn't be worth living without at least 600 miles of range!

But range can be increased without investing in larger heavier batteries by not providing such high performance.
 
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Why on earth you think you'll be able to get away with such a gross misrepresentation I have no idea.



The more energy from the batteries which you consume to obtain "performance", the less you have available for "range".

Cars which prioritise "performance" will either have to have larger, heavier, batteries, or will have to have the marketing disadvantage of an uncompetitively short range.

A car which limits "performance" will be able to provide a longer range for a given battery capacity and will therefore need a smaller, lighter, battery to provide an acceptable, competitive range.

You may thank me later for preventing you from appearing to be deliberately obtuse.

@Avocet will likely be along to give a more authoritative response in due course, but you are mistaken.

Give or take, most EVs now come with a fairly standard 77 Kwh battery provision: ergo, the packs all weigh basically the same.

Also, as the motors are very efficient, my 4.5s 0-60mph EV is not efficiency-compromised by being pootled around.
Being a performance-capable car doesn't hamstring it at all.
 
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I've seen exactly the same logic used by people arguing that they are OK to drive after a few drinks, possible even safer, as they know to concentrate harder.

You are as disgraceful as them.

Then I would suggest, you lay off the drink..

As usual, your comments are a disgrace, intended to be nothing more than a poor attempt at trolling, to create a row. Back you go, where you belong, on ignore,
 
Amazing, isn't it, how some people have such a grossly distorted view of their own importance and infallibility that they think anybody who disagrees with them has to be faking that disagreement simply to generate a conflict. They are so deluded that they cannot conceive of the possibility that they might actually, genuinely, be wrong, and that the criticism levelled at them is valid.
 
@Avocet will likely be along to give a more authoritative response in due course, but you are mistaken.

Give or take, most EVs now come with a fairly standard 77 Kwh battery provision: ergo, the packs all weigh basically the same.

Also, as the motors are very efficient, I can run my 4.5s 0-60mph EV is not efficiency-compromised by being pootled around.
Being a performance-capable car doesn't hamstring it at all.
Do you really want to deny the validity of physical laws? How well do you think that will work out for you?
 
Do you really want to deny the validity of physical laws? How well do you think that will work out for you?

I've just answered the original post.

You're just so desperate to be "right", you're creating a different scenario and responding to that.

I'll not reply to your trolling any more.
 
Amazing, isn't it, how some people have such a grossly distorted view of their own importance and infallibility that they think anybody who disagrees with them has to be faking that disagreement simply to generate a conflict. They are so deluded that they cannot conceive of the possibility that they might actually, genuinely, be wrong, and that the contrary view them is valid.

So easy*, isn't it, to dismiss things you wish weren't so as "trolling".


* But ultimately fruitless.




Want any more?

Want to carry on digging, and deny that as using "performance" consumes more power, and thus shortens range, a car engineered to not be able to provide the extremes of performance which many EVs do would by necessity offer a longer range with the same capacity batteries or offer the same range with smaller and lighter batteries?
 
Amazing, isn't it, how some people have such a grossly distorted view of their own importance and infallibility that they think anybody who disagrees with them has to be faking that disagreement simply to generate a conflict. They are so deluded that they cannot conceive of the possibility that they might actually, genuinely, be wrong, and that the contrary view them is valid.

I could not agree more, so why do you do it?

You don't know me, you don't have a clue about my abilities, yet you sought to compare me to a drunken driver. I take, and have always taken my driving on the public road, very, very seriously. My record, is totally impeccable, despite the miles, and many hours I have spent on the road, so who, exactly, are you to judge? You are just a troll, hiding behind a keyboard, under a made up name, to hide your true identity.
 
I could not agree more, so why do you do it?
Don't do what?

Say things I genuinely believe, to which you can muster no response except "you don't really believe that, you're only saying it to wind me up"?

Maybe you should ask yourself why you are so arrogant that you assume that nobody could genuinely not agree with you.


You don't know me, you don't have a clue about my abilities, yet you sought to compare me to a drunken driver.
No, I didn't do that at all.

I said your LOGIC was the same.

I said the WAY YOUR ARGUMENT WORKED was the same.


But forget it - I'm done with this.

Life is too short to try and debate with people like you and Brigadier, who are so unbelievably arrogant that you just assume that it is so impossible for you to be wrong that nobody who says they are can be doing anything other than saying something they don't believe simply to wind you up.

And are so arrogant that they think anybody would care enough about them to want to wind them up.

I may well have wound you up by challenging you, but for you to think I did it with the aim of winding you up?

Don't judge others by your own standards, not all of us are that childish.
 
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Individuals, and their ability to concentrate, varies quite considerably. I've never had an issue staying alert behind the wheel, probably why I have a clean licence, and never been involved in an accident, despite probably driving millions of miles, in a wide variety of vehicles during my working career and privately.

Individuals and their ability to drive after consuming alcohol also vary quite considerably, but not many of them get better at it after consuming the stuff... :rolleyes:
 
I've seen exactly the same logic used by people arguing that they are OK to drive after a few drinks, possible even safer, as they know to concentrate harder.

You are as disgraceful as them.

Ah.. Didn't see this. You beat me to it...
 
But range can be increased without investing in larger heavier batteries by not providing such high performance.

Not that much. What do you think you would have to limit a typical EV to, in order to get 600 miles of range out of (say) an 80 kWh battery?
 
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