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Good News on Vaccines and Delta Variant
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You seem intent on simplifying debates to the point where they are meaningless.
You’ve chosen to be vaccinated, so how did you decide the risk of Covid was worse than vaccine side effects.
I hadn’t realised it’s as high as 1 in 3.
I’m quite risk adverse in regards to Covid, but we do have to start living with Covid and getting back to some normality and allowing more freedom for the double vaccinated seems a potential way forward.
the lockdown sceptics will be quick to point out parts of USA that dropped all lockdown measures and aren’t seeing big rises - Texas for example. However I’m not sure USA has much delta variant.
You are quite an enraged individual, and your anger makes you read that, which is not there.
Calm down, and see that it was just an observation on my part.
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A question for an the anti-vaxxers:
In the UK, 129,000+ people have died with a connection to Covid. Many more are suffering long Covid symptoms. In the UK, 69,600,000 have had a vaccine jab.
How many have died because of the vaccination?
In the UK, 129,000+ people have died with a connection to Covid. Many more are suffering long Covid symptoms. In the UK, 69,600,000 have had a vaccine jab.
How many have died because of the vaccination?
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Captain Nemesis
The problem though is that "her choice" is actually "her choice" to expose her children to the risks of serious, life changing, permanent disabilities and death. Or at the very least pain and discomfort. If they are girls she is exposing them to the risks of giving birth to a disabled child. If they are boys, to the risk of reduced fertility or even sterility. And she is exposing others in society who were not vaccinated for any reason to the risks of disease spread by her children.
And for what? Why?
Because she believes a pack of complete nonsense. Because she believes things which are utterly false. Because she refuses, absolutely refuses, to believe the truth.
Sorry - no - there comes a point where a "choice" on that basis has public health consequences which cannot be tolerated and which arguably qualify as child abuse.
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Captain Nemesis
I mean that people who refuse to vaccinated shoud not be allowed to go out any more.
That might be because as yet there is no answer.
Because I am very old and the balance was in favour of having the vaccine.
For a younger person, it could be different.
There really is nothing to argue about. Vaccines and the like cannot be compulsory.
Really?
Where did you see that?
"Apparently" is not a good sign.
Half a million people pinged per week means the infection must be spreading like wildfire
Unless symptoms include "had a runny nose" "had a headache" "felt tired" etc which could be anything.
(My weekly survey does, but also asks if I have tested positive)
this is a false argument.
you havent defined "long term" so you are merely saying: "we have no infinite proof there are no side effects"....well thats true of many things
however reality is that judgements are built on probability.
And we certainly can get a measure of probability by looking at historical data for vaccine side effects, safety of mRNA technology, modelling from short term outcomes etc.
https://www.itv.com/news/2021-07-19...-england-as-businesses-hit-by-staff-shortages
And it is spreading like wildfire. ONS estimates that roughly 750,000 people had Covid during the week 10th to 17th.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...19infectionsurveypilot/23july2021#main-points
So you must consider the vaccine side effects must be close to negligible for at least a fair few years
And so this is a good time to stop isolating and wearing masks?????
Must be a ploy to wipe out the antivaxxers.
I think you're mistaking me for someone else.
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