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Bodd
Journalist will do what they have to do to earn a crust or get recognition.. But that is entirely their choice....
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Journalist will do what they have to do to earn a crust or get recognition.. But that is entirely their choice....
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'Possibly' is a better outcome than simply relinquishing oneself of responsibility.
It is hardly a role model of democratic government.
If the rest of the world emulates our example we'll have all sorts of dangerous individuals and groups roaming wherever they can gain access, to cause mayhem and terror.
I didn't suggest that SJ, the UK, or any other government or their agent should be "responsible for the actions of every runaway who wishes to join a terrorist group."
I'm guessing that was not your intended meaning.
However, the UK ought to take responsibility for its own failings and not simply absolve itself of responsibility by the questionable processes at its disposal.
She isnt right, just an excuse to make political capital.
Terrorism sets out to create division and undermine democracy, we should focus on that
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sodthisforfun
What failings? What did the UK do?
And I disagreed with your 'probably' because you hadn't taken into account the amount of red tape it would've taken to get her home within 2 weeks. Possibly less as I don't know how long it takes for a baby to die of pneumonia. THAT is what I was talking about.
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And when the opportunity presents itself to arrest and try these terrorist we should welcome it.
Unless you are of the opinion that we should unleash bombs on them, creating 'collateral damage' in the process. Or just leave these terrorists to their fate in refugee camps.
Neither option is an acceptable, civilised, responsible response.
Failed to prevent radicalisation, failed to be aware of it when it occurred, and failed to prevent people travelling, especially on other people's passports, to join terrorists groups.
It then abdicated its responsibility to rectify its previous failings.
Only a SJW would complain a government has failed to prrvent radicalisation.
Typical attitude of a wet snowflake.
We must never forget that it is the terrorists that have done evil.
I suppose you'll be trying to persuade the forum that terrorists are born, not made, next?
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sodthisforfun
Oh do behave. Since when has the UK been responsible with what a stupid child looks at on the internet? How would they even know what she was going to do and that she was going to run away? What about the family? They had a bigger responsibility - they saw her every day, unlike the UK government and must've seen signs. Will you only be happy if every thought, every action is controlled by the gov? George Orwell's 1984 is a novel....
The only thing the UK did wrong was that she got through passport control. Everything else she is responsible for herself and ISIS.
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sodthisforfun
Why do you say that? Nothing to do with what was written.
Oh dear, you seem to be out of your depth
Dissociating myself from your initial comments,
The UK failed to prevent the exit of Shemima. It then compounded those omissions by failing to present a responsible international role model, then failed to honour its international responsibilities in two ways, arresting, trying and if possible punishing an offence, and also taking one more potential terrorist out of circulation.
I am not and have not denied the responsibility that Shemima ought to bear, but the death of a child is not an appropriate punishment.
The abdication of responsibility is not, and should not be, an acceptable action of a UK minister.
Because both you and notch seem to be under the impression that terrorism and the existence of terrorists cannot be prevented.
There is no point in trying to converse with someone who has only insults as responses.
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