- I'm really not interested in being right or in defending a position.
Your initial response (Post # 79) to me was a criticism of my criticism of reganandcarter's persistent and historical racist innuendo.
Reganandcarter thanked you for that, and I perceived your criticism as a defence of reganandcarter's racist innuendo.
You have clearly been around for a long time and I have posted several of reganandcarter's racist comments, so you must be aware of his historical racism, and yet you still defend his right to post his persistent racist comments and innuendos, while continuing to suggest I am wrong to criticise his racist attitude. Then you preach about racism being the cause of much horror in the world.
You appear to be all over the place, I suggest you review your comments and position, and apply your sermons in the right direction, unless you are persuaded by johnny2007's nonsensical accusations.
It is seriously difficult for me to understand how, when it is possible to write something as relevent, thoughtful and cogent as this in post 26:
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You have conveniently conflated several issues to make your point.
a) The Black Boxer's representatives are not requesting any reparations, just an apology from the relevant Sporting Body. I would have thought that the Sporting Body ought to do the 'sporting' thing and apologise for their representatives' actions. It is irrelevant if the person who made that decision at the time is still alive, The decision was made on behalf of the Sporting Body and it continues to exist, or its relevant iteration.
So the 'analogy' of the boxer is a poor example. The later discussion about Genocide of Jews is more appropriate, as an analogy.
b) Reparations are not about punishing those responsible for the actions, that is usually not possible. They are about righting the wrongs of the past for those still suffering from the effects of those actions. Therefore the criteria is "are the victims, or their descendants, or their kith and kin (used in the original sense of the phrase) still suffering from the inappropriate, incorrect, illegal or inhuman actions of the past?" Therefore your phrase "and still in process" is very relevant. If the wrong actions, in the past, are still affecting the 'kith and kin' of the living, then reparations should be due. Those reparations are not compensation. Reparations are about righting the injustices of the past, not compensating for them.
Therefore reparations can be in the form of public acknowledgement, education, laws, reforms, etc. It is not about financial compensation.
It is absolutely not about punishing those responsible, which is invariably impossible."
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...that it is not possible to see this as divisive:
Reganandcarter is a rampant racist, sometimes posting incorrect conspiracy theories to promote his racist agenda, often supported and defended by algas, and many others. Indeed one of them (algas) has previously admitted and proclaimed to be proud of his attitude.
I voted for Reform and I admit to being a right wing racist and proud of it !
Many, many of reganandcarter's typical posts have been deleted by the Mods.
Here;'s one example where Captain Nemesis responded to one of his typical comments, but the Captain Nemesis post has been deleted (I assume because it quoted the offensive post) as has reganandcarter's post.
Tolerance? Compassion? What a load of gush! Everything I said is true and has happened. It maybe uncomfortable for a blinkered, lefty liberal luvvie - but facts often are uncomfortable.
It's unfortunate that hard truths send you into a fit of the vapours, petal. Maybe you would like all of life's realities to be sugar coated for you?
...and that you are asking for help to be able to see this (for example) as assumptive:
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"You obviously haven't read many of reganandcarter's comments"
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I am not being assumptive when I perceive reaganandcarter as a racist, it is proven by his persistent racist comments and innuendos.
If you can't see it, then it is you holding your eyes tightly shut, but opening them just enough to defend his racist innuendos.
When you are capable of writing so clearly and helpfully as in post 26, how do you manage not to see how unhelpful it is to sink into the kind of sneering point scoring insulting back and forth that follows?
You think I should be a lovey-dovey kind of approach would work to correct reaganancrtaer's (and algas's) rampant racist?
Then why haven't you tried instead of criticising me for meeting his racism head-on?
As I previously said, you've been here for long enough to have perceived his racism, or, by your criticism of me, can I assume that you have not perceived his racism?
What upsets me in this is that the very real people suffering in Gaza and elsewhere are completely absent from consideration in this whole "you're racist" "no you're racist" nonsense.
Do you really think that you will bring about positive change by calling people names?
Maybe we should protest by stopping the traffic? Or how about posting criticism on a social media site? I'll leave the first ortest comment on a social media site for you to start.
The awful ongoing consequences of living in a racist world, where white supremacy permeates the beings of both white bodies and bodies of colour is clear for anyone who takes more than a cursery glance.
So you want me to stop criticising racist comments? Or just stop criticising reganandcarter's racist comments?
So, of course there's racism in you, and in reganandcarter, and in me - how could it be otherwise? Malcolm Gladwell was willing to admit to his prejudice against black men, so it seems a little rich for you and I to claim otherwise, quite frankly.
For those blessed with the ability of owning one's own attitude, we can be aware of our prejudice and work to correct it. Some are proud of their racist attitude and will refuse point blank to reconsider it. It's too far ingrained into their whole psyche. They are too intent, too committed to their political ideology, to reconsider an alternative.
That's why actions perpetrated by such ideologies are outlawed, because the ideology is so far ingrained, and we don't want to have a "thought-police", but their dangerous and divisive actions are harmful. Persistent racist innuendos are equally as harmful.
But you appear to disagree?
It would perhaps be more helpful if we were all able to admit this, and get curious about how we might change both ourselves and the world around us.
To engage in this childish point scoring name calling, in the context of the awful suffering going on right now, caused by racism, is frankly sickening - I invite us all to do better.
I am not indulging in point scoring or name calling, I am objecting to and criticising persistent racist comments and innuendos.
Reganandcarter is not stupid, but he uses his intelligence to try to just skim above the level of what is allowed.
Frequently his intelligence doesn't meet his expectations, and his comments are belatedly deleted by the mods.
But if you wish to defend his right to continue to make his racist innuendos, you just keep right on.
I'm sure it will gain you much popularity.
I notice you have never made any criticism of the other abusive comments posted by many, such comments as Jew-hater, racist bigot, terrorist-supporter, etc.
Is your defence of reganandcarter motivated to just defend one poster for racist comments without bothering to criticise other abusive comments? That would seem a little lopsided, don't you think?
