How far back, should we go when wanting apologies or reparations for a wrong doing?

Just to be clear, I'm not supporting the disingenuous narrative that the problem is one poster.
The barely disguised and frankly nasty racism that Gone Skiing repeatedly reacts to is toxic and disgusting.
Sorry, I don't think I'm being clear enough.

There is a lot of barely disguised racism on the forum.
I don't think I've seen any of it coming from Gone Skiing.
I've seen a fair amount of it posted by those of you who want to present yourselves as reasonable, and want to present Gone Skiing as a nutter.

I think it's deeply problematic, but I have no wish to attack you or label you - I just wish for more heart and less aggression from all of us.

Good wishes to you all, Stephen
 
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I've seen a fair amount of it posted by those of you who want to present yourselves as reasonable, and want to present Gone Skiing as a nutter.

GS, and all his previous incarnation's, sole purpose in appearing on this forum, is one of promoting discord and lengthy threads, to wreck any adult, reasonable discussion. Basically, trolling for a reaction. That is what he/she/it does, hence the description of nutter. You certainly do not owe it, any sort of apology, rather the best way to deal with it, is do what most sensible posters do, and block the poster.

The reason for the various incarnations, is simply that the poster does eventually become blocked, so their posts are not seen, except by the few who fail to make use the block. Trolls are attention seekers, they desperately crave attention. They cannot find it in the real world, so they seek to make up for it online, where, at least until blocked - they can become a keyboard warrior.
 
I'm curious to attempt to drag us back to the original question of the thread, and to get specific and personal, as a way to think about it....

One of my mother's grandfathers was a white riverboat captain in Africa. He made a fair amount of money, which he took back to the UK, and has, to some extent, passed down through the family.
The work on the riverboat was undertaken by a team of local black men. I think we can be pretty confident that they were skilled and hardworking (otherwise the venture would have been unsuccessful), that they were underpaid and treated with, at best, being patronised. (I can't help being a little disgusted at his referring to these men, his colleagues, many of whom will likely have been older and more skilled and experienced than him, as 'his boys'.

I think we can be reasonably confident that these men's poverty will have also been inherited in their families to this year, this week, this day.

My mother is unwell, will likely die in the next few years, leaving me an inheritance which is easily and clearly traceable back to the injustice of the colonial actions of my great grandfather.

It would seem frankly weird for me, given that I see how I benefit directly from this injustice, whilst others suffer from this specific history, for me to refuse to do the decent thing and look for some opportunity to make reparation.

It's interesting to see how David Harewood and David Lascelles are thinking together about reparation:


I identify as a black african.
Send me your inheritance.
Dear Gone Skiing, (and others),

Thank you for your kind and repeated invitation to join you, ReganAndCarter, Notch7, Agas etc* in the game of "Who's more Racist?" that you've all agreed to play together.

I am sorry to let you all down in declining this kind offer.

Best wishes to you all, Stephen

*The other players I am sure will forgive me for not naming them individually.
Gone skiing wins the title for most racist by a very large margin.
There's no competition.
There is a lot of barely disguised racism on the forum.
I don't think I've seen any of it coming from Gone Skiing.
Because you haven't looked at his numerous previous usernames.
 
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Mea culpa all - I got pulled in to the game!

I am fully aware of the history of barely disguised racism which have been and continue to be posted by a number of different posters over the years.

I am also fully aware of the increasingly frustrated and aggressive reactions made to these/your posts by Gone Skiing and all his previous incarnations over the years.

...and you're ALL still playing: "who's more racist?"

I'm going to stop following this thread now, with a final request:
If you find racism or antisemitism in my posts - past, present or future, please do let me know - I have much to (un)learn.

Good wishes to all, Stephen
 
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