I'm saying your test will be meaningless.
Anything and everything challenging is meaningless to a person with a closed mind.
I'm saying your test will be meaningless.
Anything and everything challenging is meaningless to a person with a closed mind.
Reviving this thread in case anyone has discovered the secret of how a boiler can produce more energy that there is in the gas it consumes.
The publication
http://www.vanslootenbv.nl/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Intergas-flyer-xtreme.pdf
has been talked about in another forum. extreme being the correct word.
Rumour has it that the boiler can achieve about 98% in its optimum operation mode ( believed to be when heating cold water ) and that the extra 24% is produced by cooking the test results.
It is mathmatically possible that cooking the test results will produce a false figure for "seasonal" efficiency.
The secret lies in the maths used. Or does it ?
well a link would be good as we don't know what your impression of extreme is do wehas been talked about in another forum. extreme being the correct word.
Hey Bernard , join the combustion chamber and I'll go through the maths with you.Reviving this thread in case anyone has discovered the secret of how a boiler can produce more energy that there is in the gas it consumes.
The publication
http://www.vanslootenbv.nl/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Intergas-flyer-xtreme.pdf
has been talked about in another forum. extreme being the correct word.
Rumour has it that the boiler can achieve about 98% in its optimum operation mode ( believed to be when heating cold water ) and that the extra 24% is produced by cooking the test results.
It is mathmatically possible that cooking the test results will produce a false figure for "seasonal" efficiency.
The secret lies in the maths used. Or does it ?
Hey Bernard , join the combustion chamber and I'll go through the maths with you.
I'm sorry but the forum rules forbids any advise on gas works.
well a link would be good as we don't know what your impression of extreme is do we![]()
ye you would say that wouldn't youThat forum is a closed, e-mail based discussion group.
Stating efficiency figures over and above 100%.So how does an independent test house cook the maths?
Just saying as it is, the founder members communicated by post and telephone as there was no e-mail or internet in those daysye you would say that wouldn't you![]()
The test house can report genuine results of heat produced and where that heat went ( into water, into flue gases and lost into the test chamber ) along with the amount of gas consumed. The truly independent test house would not put any construct on the measured results.So how does an independent test house cook the maths?
Researchers have set up test rigs where the volume and the rise in temperature of the water heated is known from which the quantity of heat transfered to the water can be calculated. The volume of gas consumed and the calorific value of the gas are known and from this the quantity of available heat is calculated. No test has ever produced results which suggested that more heat has been transfered to the water than was available from the gas consumed.But we don't know what the test was.
Researchers have set up test rigs where the volume and the rise in temperature of the water heated is known from which the quantity of heat transfered to the water can be calculated. The volume of gas consumed and the calorific value of the gas are known and from this the quantity of available heat is calculated. No test has ever produced results which suggested that more heat has been transfered to the water than was available from the gas consumed
The truly independent test house would not put any construct on the measured results.
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