Immigration and the tories

I also have heard stories about the issuing of giros of FOUR GRAND to immigrants and the smart cars and houses and they steal our jobs and our women!!! its all *******s put about by the BNP to spead hatred and jealousy and to "make our Blood boil".it works.
 
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hbark said
I have heard on several occasions, from different employees of the department of works and pensions, about the issuing of giros of FOUR GRAND to immigrants.

Richardp... who mentioned the BNP? This isn't the first time youv'e castigated a legitimate political party, just because you disagree with their views. hbark said he knows the people and you don't believe him. This is why we need a proper and open debate on all aspects of this problem. Of course these things are happening, just as they are with houses too.

Michael Howard (like him or hate him) is doing us all a favour even if he is only after votes. He is forcing the debate which is surely for the good. Why are you frightened of genuine debate?
 
david and julie said:
hbark said
I have heard on several occasions, from different employees of the department of works and pensions, about the issuing of giros of FOUR GRAND to immigrants.

Richardp... who mentioned the BNP? This isn't the first time youv'e castigated a legitimate political party, just because you disagree with their views. hbark said he knows the people and you don't believe him. This is why we need a proper and open debate on all aspects of this problem. Of course these things are happening, just as they are with houses too.

Michael Howard (like him or hate him) is doing us all a favour even if he is only after votes. He is forcing the debate which is surely for the good. Why are you frightened of genuine debate?
same as the Monster raving looney party are a legitimate political party :LOL:
 
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So whats your point then?

Are you suggesting the only legitmate political parties are the ones who share your viewpoint?
 
AdamW said:
........... and if they had stayed in those countries they WOULD have died.

And we would not have known or cared .... Who resettled a certain faction of them ? Biggest cause of problems ever !! ;)
 
"Richardp... who mentioned the BNP? This isn't the first time youv'e castigated a legitimate political party, just because you disagree with their views."

Um! so when was it agreed that we wouldn't castigate a legitimate political party? you also have mentioned this foul party before but I wouldn't call you a fascist bigot full of hate, because of it, on the contrary I believe that you are entitled to your opinion and wouldn't it be a bore if we all thought the same.
 
the point being that the BNP are not to be taken seriously like the Raving loonies they are, unless of course their race hatred causes others so minded to start to listen to their rantings then they need to be controlled.
It's the gullible and simple minded individuals that fall for their loathsome promises.
 
pipme said:
Who resettled a certain faction of them ? Biggest cause of problems ever !! ;)

I would have to agree with you there, but as they say, hindsight is always 20:20. I guess at the time it seemed like a good idea, but why on Earth did no-one stop them once they started what they have been doing for a long while now?

I also have heard stories about the issuing of giros of FOUR GRAND to immigrants

They come over here, marrying our chickens and eating our women... ;) I would say that Richard highlights an important problem here. Richard has demonstrated that there are some people who have the belief that to say anything against the concept of free-for-all immigration is racist and bigoted. :rolleyes:
 
You are wrong about both these parties.

BNP are legitimate and entitled to their views which we don't have to agree with. ( btw I don't either)

Monster raving loony party was/is? a party which people voted for as a protest against the other parties. Its a no vote if you like.

You again both fail to put forward anything positive though on the subject. We all agree Howard is a to**er but at least he is putting forward genuine debate on the subject. Why are you both so concerned about open debate on this? It isn't about racism it is just common sense, we don't have the infrastructure for more people at this time.
 
david and julie said:
You are wrong about both these parties.

BNP are legitimate and entitled to their views which we don't have to agree with. ( btw I don't either)

Monster raving loony party was/is? a party which people voted for as a protest against the other parties. Its a no vote if you like.

You again both fail to put forward anything positive though on the subject. We all agree Howard is a to**er but at least he is putting forward genuine debate on the subject. Why are you both so concerned about open debate on this? It isn't about racism it is just common sense, we don't have the infrastructure for more people at this time.
that's your opinion not mine! please desist from putting words into other peoples mouths thank you very much :)
 
What a pathetic and childish answer.

Is that the best you can come up with when discussing one of the most important issues facing the UK?
 
Surely 'some' of their ideology is built upon peoples real fears ?

I have nothing against controlled immigration --- but I am fearful of the Ghettos which abound and the implications of that..
Tis no good coming to live here and not wanting to embrace our way of life .. look at the numbers of disaffected youth ... lost, between their home and family expectations and the demands of their peers on the street.
I have been around for a while, knowing certain areas of Bristol where things are worse than than they ever were, so who stands to gain out of all this ?
I wish someone could explain to me, all the talk of richness in multi-culture who for ? Just a dream 24 hr boozing is the mantra not being concerned with foreign culture, as they are mainly unconcerned with our own.
Look around the world .. Singapore was raised from 3rd to 1st world by immigrants, but they had to toe the line .. now they have a safe society, which most of their people are happy to live within .... Now Lee Kuan Yew. Singaporean politician, founded the anticommunist Socialist People’s Action Party ... he was the MAN to see off terrorists, tough but uncompromising.

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david and julie said:
What a pathetic and childish answer.

Is that the best you can come up with when discussing one of the most important issues facing the UK?
you said it! exactly what i think of your reply
 
Adolf Hitler was probarbly a nice bloke to his mates and he had a legitimate polical party and I seem to remember that he didn't like the Jewish community.
 
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