Immigration...............Job I did today, feel very uneasy.

[mark vincent]

Foreigners coming here should be required to take out insurance against unemployment and sickness for which they could be given tax relief on their earnings,
immigration from Eastern Europe is still rising but a lot of these migrants are benefit migrants,
they know that they can get more in Benefits here than in their own country.
one example recently an Eastern European woman with 10 kids arrived here she couldn't speak English and had no skills,
so the chance of her ever getting a job that would pay enough to get her off benefits was practically zero,
because she had kids she was given a house straight away but she complained it wasn't big enough, so 2 houses may have to be knocked into one to accomodate her.
This woman is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to benefit migration, fraud is rife, a lot of this fraud is organised crime on an industrial scale, the use of forged documentation and threats of violence is used,
This is what was predicted by sane voices who warned against allowing uncontrolled migration from Eastern Europe but they were villified as racists and bigots.
We are now living with the fallout from these treacherous policies by Blair and co.

 

[JBR]

I agree, Tosser.

The obvious answer is to have exactly the same benefits rules and payments as other countries. Let them take their share!

Edit: I see that your name is unacceptable to the censorship fairies!

 

[chapeau]

Foreigners coming here should be required to take out insurance against unemployment and sickness for which they could be given tax relief on their earnings

Why stop with foreigners? Apply the same rule to everybody I say.

 

[libby lou lou]

Foreigners coming here should be required to take out insurance against unemployment and sickness for which they could be given tax relief on their earnings

Why stop with foreigners? Apply the same rule to everybody I say.

Why should i born here 52 yrs ago, pay for ins because other people who i didn't want here are causing this?. I have no job, they are causing this, takes a week to see my doctor... blah ...............

 

[chapeau]

You should pay for insurance because you are using a service. Being born here entitles you to a British passport, nothing else.

The country is fecked because for the past fifty years people have thought they are entitled to a standard of living which they haven't paid for. This needs to stop.

 

[AronSearle]

You should pay for insurance because you are using a service. Being born here entitles you to a British passport, nothing else.

The country is fecked because for the past fifty years people have thought they are entitled to a standard of living which they haven't paid for. This needs to stop.

Sorry, but I don't pay 35-40% taxes for just a police/fire/ambulance service.

(And no I am not a high earner, most people pay 35% or more when all taxes are considered).

 

[JBR]

You should pay for insurance because you are using a service. Being born here entitles you to a British passport, nothing else.

The country is fecked because for the past fifty years people have thought they are entitled to a standard of living which they haven't paid for. This needs to stop.

Sorry, but I don't pay 35-40% taxes for just a police/fire/ambulance service.

(And no I am not a high earner, most people pay 35% or more when all taxes are considered).

I agree. Those of us who have paid taxes and national insurance all our lives are entitled to these services. Surely that's what national insurance is for.

It's quite a con, isn't it, that immigrants (whether illegal or legal) who have contributed nothing should receive handouts - especially when it seems some of them take priority over those of us who have contributed.

We live in a back-to-front, upside-down country.[/u]

 

[amfisted]

UKIP are a one trick pony - hence will never get in.

Correct.
UKIP consists of "Nigel Farage and his colourful but essentially ineffective anti EU rants". That's all they have. Anyone who wastes their precious vote on that extremely limited package deserves all they get.

You right.

We should vote con/lab/lib for more of the same, it's working so well for us at the moment.

I can understand some people's need to exercise a protest vote over the lack of choice between one bunch of corrupt, incompetent boobies and another.
Unfortunately, in their current manifestation, a protest vote is all that UKIP will ever be good for, and voting them into government before they can develop a greater powerbase and a proper, costed manifesto would be a disaster.

 

[pred]

UKIP are a one trick pony - hence will never get in.

Correct.
UKIP consists of "Nigel Farage and his colourful but essentially ineffective anti EU rants". That's all they have. Anyone who wastes their precious vote on that extremely limited package deserves all they get.

You right.

We should vote con/lab/lib for more of the same, it's working so well for us at the moment.

I can understand some people's need to exercise a protest vote over the lack of choice between one bunch of corrupt, incompetent boobies and another.
Unfortunately, in their current manifestation, a protest vote is all that UKIP will ever be good for, and voting them into government before they can develop a greater powerbase and a proper, costed manifesto would be a disaster.

Who would you suggest we vote for then please??

 

[pred]

I think the majority of our eastern European friends that work in this country drive trucks for a living working through agencies, the agency i work for said i would be better off with some sort of umbrella tax system where you pay very little tax as most Euro's are doing.

 

[chapeau]

when the feck are you going to stop moaning?

 

[pred]

I wasn't moaning you idiot, a number of people have made a reference to immigrants paying taxes, i was merely stating they are paying taxes but thanks to a loophole not very much.

 

[chapeau]

Moan Moan Moan.

Go bloody do the same thing then.

And you say you won't get out of bed for less than ten pounds an hour. Your're one of these people who think because you were born here we owe you a living. Well it's not how it works anymore.

If you want to compete with these hard working immigrants you need to get an attitude change. Get on yer bike as once was said. Get up a little earlier and go to bed a little later.

And stop bloody moaning.

 

[joe-90]

What's your hourly rate Chappy? Gonna tell us? (he won't).

 

[chapeau]

Depends on the job, location, market conditions.

Did one in London over summer which paid three times what I'm being paid tomorrow in Birmingham.

I don't have a minimum rate that I will not get out of bed for. I will 'get on my bike' when neccessary. I pay myself £1500 per month whatever my hourly rate is.

Good enough?