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johnny2007 said:
That graph up there is pure fantasy from 2000 onwards.
Pure speculation.
I remember when the "scientists" started the disaster fairy tale in the 80s.
So far they haven't got one of their prediction right, not a single one.
I remember the "experts" who said that in 2010 London would have tropical climate and be on the beach: they conned me!
There's no beach here (it's still where it was in the 80s) and it's still as cold as ever.
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We need to build more windmills and solar farms to produce all of that green electricity to power all the EVs.
Wonder how much electricity we have produced in the last 2 weeks with Zero sun and Zero wind.
Funny how every BBC /sky news report on weather always manages to link it to man made climate change espicually when its hot or windy or rainy and yet the recent feature on both BBC and Sky--- nothing -not one mention of linking it to man made climate change, why is that.
https://news.sky.com/story/uk-weath...-this-month-in-many-parts-of-country-13250596
www.bbc.co.uk

What is anticyclonic gloom and why is it making the UK weather so dull?

Elizabeth Rizzini and Darren Bett look at why our weather is so gloomy at the moment and ponder when things might change.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
aveatry said:
We need to build more windmills and solar farms to produce all of that green electricity to power all the EVs.
Wonder how much electricity we have produced in the last 2 weeks with Zero sun and Zero wind.
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That is one of the reasons why the rush to green energy, is so ridiculously expensive - the need to have a near equal capacity of backup, in the form of conventional generation.
 
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aveatry said:
We need to build more windmills and solar farms to produce all of that green electricity to power all the EVs.
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Agreed - but preferably, actually commit some R&D to tidal so that we can become world leaders in a technology that is actually in demand. That way, we could export something, bringing in much-needed foreign revenue, enhance our standing in the world, improve our energy security still further, reduce our CO2 emissions and, shut up the whining miseries who keep telling us the lights will go out when it's not sunny or windy. :rolleyes:

aveatry said:
Wonder how much electricity we have produced in the last 2 weeks with Zero sun and Zero wind.
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No need to wonder, you can get actual real numbers, and have real "facts", that nobody can argue with, at your disposal!

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aveatry said:
Funny how every BBC /sky news report on weather always manages to link it to man made climate change espicually when its hot or windy or rainy and yet the recent feature on both BBC and Sky--- nothing -not one mention of linking it to man made climate change, why is that.
https://news.sky.com/story/uk-weath...-this-month-in-many-parts-of-country-13250596
www.bbc.co.uk

What is anticyclonic gloom and why is it making the UK weather so dull?

Elizabeth Rizzini and Darren Bett look at why our weather is so gloomy at the moment and ponder when things might change.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Here you go. I knew you'd be missing it...

 
Harry Bloomfield said:
That is one of the reasons why the rush to green energy, is so ridiculously expensive - the need to have a near equal capacity of backup, in the form of conventional generation.
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Expensive???

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I think Harry's point is "if the country needs 100MW, and they have 100MW of wind turbines, but it's not always windy, what they do is keep 100MW of coal revved up and producing (because they have to, because you can't just turn a power station on when things are slack), as backup for when the wind drops

He doesn't get on with the notion of storage, and I think chooses not to understand that coal is actually also storage
 
robinbanks said:
I think Harry's point is "if the country needs 100MW, and they have 100MW of wind turbines, but it's not always windy, what they do is keep 100MW of coal revved up and producing (because they have to, because you can't just turn a power station on when things are slack), as backup for when the wind drops
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There are no coal stations remaining, we are now entirely reliant on gas and woodchip, from Canada, to work as backup, when wind and solar fails us. Neither of which can be instantly turned on and off, they need warm-up, and cool down-time.
 
And still, the lights haven't gone out...

The interconnectors help, of course...
 
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