Is this dangerous? Connector blocks below sink.

[Echo the husky]

Well the installation is certainly s***.

 

[mattylad]

So the the case with 60amp written on it is the cutout!

Yes, that's it - the thing that's not fully seating in it's holder - push it in more at the bottom.

I hope you have not paid in full for this bloody mess!

 

[Draughtsman]

Although there is now a new CU; should the spark have fitted an RCD in the meter box?

 

[Draughtsman]

Yes, that's it - the thing that's not fully seating in it's holder - push it in more at the bottom.

I hope you have not paid in full for this bloody mess!

This cutout definitely had seals intact before the works so presumably it was used to isolate, but the digimeter still has a readout in the same ballpark as before the works. The digimeter has the facility to recall it's recent setting?

 

[Draughtsman]

The digimeter has a seal on the consumer side! That seems to be significant. Can anyone elaborate on this? Would it actually have been feasible to install a new CU that is further away than the olde fuse box by using all new continuous cables if only the supplier is allowed to connect to the meter? Is that why the spark used the connector blocks? (After telling me that the original tails would be coming out, just to get the work). Tosser!

 

[Draughtsman]

What do suppliers do to sparks that remove meter seals?

 

[Draughtsman]

They will need access for maintenance/testing for sure. They appear to be floating in the air at present? Red Black single insulation?

Is this the only place they could have gone? Is it close to where the DNO cut out is? How far? Where's the Meter with regards to this?

Black and Red are original fuse box tails (early eighties). Although they were supposed to be coming out I think the spark had spotted the seal on the meter and knew all along that he'd be leaving the old tails in place once the householder had vacated the premises...

 

[OwainDIYer]

'Contractors' I suppose the clue was in the title - no contract, so no actual remit, so no comeback apart from a real stinker of a feedback.

Of course there is a contract. It doesn't need to be written. And an implied term of that contract is that the work will be done with a reasonable level of care and skill and, at a minimum, in compliance with the law. The law (Part P of the Building Regulations) requires electrical work to be done in accordance with BS 7671 or an equivalent level of safety.

You give him fair opportunity to come back and remedy all the defects at his cost and provide you with the appropriate certificates (which are required by BS 7671) and if he fails to do so you tell him you will get another (an) electrician to redo the work and will sue him for the full cost and your consequential losses for his breach of contract.

You can also report him to his self-certification scheme or to Trading Standards.

 

[OwainDIYer]

What do suppliers do to sparks that remove meter seals?

No sparks ever removes a meter seal. They're already unsealed when the sparks turns up.

 

[Draughtsman]

I haven't fully paid him and, frankly, I don't want him back in the property. I don't know his scheme No. either, and can't find it online. Is it illegal to install a CU without a certain level of qualification?

It's all time though, I just don't have the time.

 

[jg321]

It also looks to me like the cutout fuse isn't correctly seated, which would worry me slightly.

 

[Draughtsman]

It also looks to me like the cutout fuse isn't correctly seated, which would worry me slightly.

It wasn't pushed home properly. It is now.

 

[Draughtsman]

Of course there is a contract. It doesn't need to be written. And an implied term of that contract is that the work will be done with a reasonable level of care and skill and, at a minimum, in compliance with the law. The law (Part P of the Building Regulations) requires electrical work to be done in accordance with BS 7671 or an equivalent level of safety.

You give him fair opportunity to come back and remedy all the defects at his cost and provide you with the appropriate certificates (which are required by BS 7671) and if he fails to do so you tell him you will get another (an) electrician to redo the work and will sue him for the full cost and your consequential losses for his breach of contract.

You can also report him to his self-certification scheme or to Trading Standards.

How do I identify his scheme if the cert wasn't issued and I don't have his scheme membership number?

 

[bernardgreen]

How do I identify his scheme if the cert wasn't issued and I don't have his scheme membership number?

Identify him ( not here ) by name and contact details to Trading Standards, he is a danger to anyone who employs him.

I would hazard a guess he pulled the main fuse to isolate the supply when he extended the meter tails with that bodged connection. The DNO might be interested in knowing who pulled a main fuse and then did not push it fully home so give them his contact details as well.

The DNO will need to be involved when a real electrician installs new and safe meter tails

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Black and Red are original fuse box tails (early eighties).

Hang on - to what were the new tails from the new meter connected when the new meter was installed?

Although they were supposed to be coming out I think the spark had spotted the seal on the meter and knew all along that he'd be leaving the old tails in place once the householder had vacated the premises...

He is not a spark.