Israel under attack

[ellal]

But Hamas don't even recognise Israel in the first place. Unless views genuinely change there will be no end to this.

And the state of Israel doesn't recognise the right of palestinians to have their own country...

They have said that they will now cut Gaza off from the world and effectively turn an open prison of 2 million people into a concentration camp...

They certainly haven't learned from history and are applying similar tactics to the palestinians that the jews suffered...

I assume people have seen the mass indiscriminate destruction that is taking place, and the increase in killings in the west bank?

These killings were of course going on long before the unforgivable hamas killings, but no condemnation then!

 

[transam]

The German concentration camps were industrialised extermination camps
Who’s sole purpose was the mass murder of Jews and disposal of there corpses

Jews were also used for medical experiments and research

Gold teeth from the corpses were removed and used to fund the war effort (?)

The Egyptians their Fellow Arab brothers seem reluctant to open the border crossing to allow some to leave ?? That includes those with foreign pass ports ? They are concerned about security issues ? Basically they don’t want Palistinians entering there country ???

 

[Notch7]

These killings were of course going on long before the unforgivable hamas killings, but no condemnation then

Hamas have been committing terrorism for many years

 

[transam]

This entire caper is likely (will) to escalate into a wider conflict / war ??

All out war ?? The world may need to brace itself ? May be ???

Confrontation with the mad mullers is on the cards ?? It will
Happen eventually ? So may as well go for it now before the fruit cakes get the bomb ??

 

[fillyboy]

Gold teeth from the corpses were removed and used to fund the war effort (?)

I visited a holocaust museum in Jerusalem and they had on display gold bars made from the fillings of Jews.

 

[Stivino]

I visited a holocaust museum in Jerusalem and they had on display gold bars made from the fillings of Jews.

I wonder if they're going to have them made from the teeth of Palestinians soon.

 

[Roy Bloom]

I've given you the link Tim Marshall on Tom Swawbrick yesterday- it's available on catch up

By the way Tim Marshall is an expert on international affairs, so he knows his stuff....unlike you.

Yes I listened to it. As to his specialism, a) he was obviously biased toward Israel, and b) for all his specialism, he seemed very unsure on just about everything.
About 8 minutes to ten minutes in, he explained how Israel has started issuing daily work visas for workers to enter Israel, to work for the day. But a) he did say that these visas were tightly controlled, only for married, older men. And that the men had to return to Gaza after work, and b) he didn't say how many of these visas were actually issued.

So much for your claim that:

Israel had been keeping its borders virtually closed from Gaza, but they had started to open up and begin to trust somewhat……that didnt go well at all.

So they kept Gaza locked down for decades, then they allowed in some cheap labour on a daily basis. How very benevolent of them.
But the freedom of association was stilled denied to Palesriniians in Gaza and the West Bank, and all imports were still tightly controlled.
You would think that Israel was being benevolent, but in reality they just wanted cheap labour.

 

[transam]

Strangely enough ( or not ?) early false teeth sets were made from the teeth of deceased

Afaik teeth were collected from the corpses of dead soldiers

For example from the corpses of soldiers killed in battles such as the battle of water loo

???

 

[Roy Bloom]

Did you look for the translated one? I know, the translator is probably American therefore it is fake.

He's actuallu a Qatari, born in Bethlehem (Israel), educated in UK, described as a moderate Muslim.

I have dealt with that already.
Further evidence that you don't read my comments.
Do you even read any of it? Or do you just rattle off a response? Clearly your response do not address any of the points I make.
I'll reproduce the relevant bit for you:

No you haven't.

Yes I have, haven't I children?
YESSS!

I even reproduced it for you.

I said there are translated YouTube videos of the press conference. Concentrate.The one where one of the Hamas leaders launches the charter and reads from it. And spookily enough it is the same document I have linked to.

You're confused, poor lad.
You presented a Youtube version in Arabic, and another version, translated by a Qatari, born in Bethlehem (Israel), educated in UK, described as a moderate Muslim.
By all means, please do present this Youtube translated version (that you claim to have already presented, but it must have been eaten by the dog ) and I'll check it out.

 

[Roy Bloom]

And you can't post the "genuine" charter. You have no idea if it exists or what is says.

Exactly!
That's what I've been saying all along.
We can't access the original. We can only access versions translated by Israel/US, or one other independent Qatari, born in Bethlehem, educated in UK, described as a moderate Muslim.
Can you not understand that every one has a degree of a) unconcsious bias, and b) their own narrative on issues.
Until we can access a genuine original from Hamas, we have to treat other versions with a degree of suspicion.

 

[denso13]

By all means, please do present this Youtube translated version (that you claim to have already presented, but it must have been eaten by the dog ) and I'll check it out.

Your confused again. I posted the Arabic version and said there were translated versions available. Did you look?

and another version, translated by a Qatari, born in Bethlehem (Israel), educated in UK, described as a moderate Muslim.

That is nothing whatsoever to do with the video.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Only one charter reported, exactly the same one.

Do you have links to different versions?

Why do you insist on making the same point several times?
My response is the same to your previous claim:

Exactly!
That's what I've been saying all along.
We can't access the original. We can only access versions translated by Israel/US, or one other independent Qatari, born in Bethlehem, educated in UK, described as a moderate Muslim.
Can you not understand that every one has a degree of a) unconcsious bias, and b) their own narrative on issues.
Until we can access a genuine original from Hamas, we have to treat other versions with a degree of suspicion.

 

[denso13]

Until we can access a genuine original from Hamas, we have to treat other versions with a degree of suspicion.

I believe the version I have posted is the original. There is overwhelming evidence for that.

You don't. I can't help you with that.

 

[denso13]

Why do you insist on making the same point several times?

I'll keep doing it until it sinks in. You aren't reading what I write.

 

[denso13]

We can only access versions translated by Israel/US, or one other independent Qatari, born in Bethlehem, educated in UK, described as a moderate Muslim.

Or listen to a Hamas leader read it out. Must be a fake news conference.