Israel under attack

[Roy Bloom]

It is?

Under the UN definition it is, beause it commits acts of terror.
Under the carefully crafted western definition, it can't be.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Hamas are a designated terrorist group - if you publish anything to support them - you are committing a criminal offence, in the UK.

Yes, exactly, UK has exploited domestic law to cover its politically motivated designation of terrorists.
UN do not recognise, nor designate Hamas as terrorists.
I suspect due to their struggle for a Palestinian nation state.
UN (like any other organisation) do not publish their decision for not making a decision.

You really do need to go back to school.

 

[motorbiking]

You wonder beyond your usual boll@x, if you are residing in the UK you are on dodgy ground.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Of course

Russia is a terrorist state today, although really it’s the Putin regime.

Although states and countries aren’t really called terrorist as such

Under the carefully crafted western definition.
Under the UN definition actors committing acts of terror are terrorists.

 

[Roy Bloom]

You wonder beyond your usual boll@x, if you are residing in the UK you are on dodgy ground.

Nonsense. I have never expressed support for Hamas.

There's always going to be dishonest posters making incorrect and inflamatory accusations.
You really do need to go back to school.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Well certainly the State of Israel has engaged in state-sponsored terrorism

but Israel doesn’t really commit random, indiscriminate acts of terror, mostly it’s the army fighting in retaliation. I guess over the years state Israel has committed oppression rather than terror.

what Israel are doing at the moment is not terrorism, even if it’s not justified.

Under the UN definition it very definitely is terrorism.

Although the term is not subject to a universally agreed definition, terrorism can be broadly understood as a method of coercion that utilizes or threatens to utilize violence in order to spread fear and thereby attain political or ideological goals

https://www.unodc.org/documents/e4j/18-04932_CT_Mod_01_ebook_FINALpdf.pdf

 

[motorbiking]

You are challenging their status as a prescribed terrorist organisation, you are accusing the UK of "exploit[ing] domestic law to cover its politically motivated designation of terrorists." You post this on an online forum, you are committing an offence.

Terrorism Act 2000

An Act to make provision about terrorism; and to make temporary provision for Northern Ireland about the prosecution and punishment of certain offences, the preservation of peace and the maintenance of order.

www.legislation.gov.uk

 

[Roy Bloom]

I can understand the urge for revenge but Israel must come to realise sending troops backed by overwhelming air power and tanks can only make things much worse. As soon as the world gets first hand accounts of burning children and blasted homes, Israel will be seen as the aggressor, despite being the victim of a terrible atrocity.

As palestinians are seen as the aggressor despite decades of atrocities.

 

[Brigadier]

You are challenging their status as a prescribed terrorist organisation, you are accusing the UK of "exploit[ing] domestic law to cover its politically motivated designation of terrorists." You post this on an online forum, you are committing an offence.

Terrorism Act 2000

An Act to make provision about terrorism; and to make temporary provision for Northern Ireland about the prosecution and punishment of certain offences, the preservation of peace and the maintenance of order.

www.legislation.gov.uk

Roy needn't worry, coz the prisons are full

 

[Roy Bloom]

You are challenging their status as a prescribed terrorist organisation, you are accusing the UK of "exploit[ing] domestic law to cover its politically motivated designation of terrorists." You post this on an online forum, you are committing an offence.

Terrorism Act 2000

An Act to make provision about terrorism; and to make temporary provision for Northern Ireland about the prosecution and punishment of certain offences, the preservation of peace and the maintenance of order.

www.legislation.gov.uk

Nonsense, I am declaring an academic opinion, and illustrating how and why UN do not designate Hamas as a terrorist organisation, and how and why UK exploits its domestic law to eradicate and prevent justifiable opposition to its policies.
If the UK is afraid of such exposure and discussion of its policies, then it has become a totalitarian state.

You really do need to go back to school.

 

[motorbiking]

So according to you Hamas should not be a prescribed terrorist organisation because the "UK exploits its domestic law to eradicate and prevent justifiable opposition to its policies."?

 

[Roy Bloom]

No idea. I only work here, man.
Maybe they can look back in history when Canaan and the Kingdom of Judea were a thing. Split north-south, perhaps Jerusalem declared an open city. No matter which solution you prefer someone, somewhere will object and off we go again.

If we go back only to the UN awarding Israel land for its people, it was unfair and inequitable from that point on
The few Israelis were awarded way more than a fair and equitable share of the land, compard to the population of Palestinians.

The argument that Palestine was a large area of land that was inhabited by nomadic tribes, and was therefore available does not justify the resulting oppression of the Palestinians.
If it were, that would be the same argument for justifying the dislocation and eradication of Australian, North American, South American, and Canadian imdigenous people, not to mention the smaller islands, such as Polynesia, West Indies, etc.

 

[Roy Bloom]

So according to you Hamas should not be a prescribed terrorist organisation because the "UK exploits its domestic law to eradicate and prevent justifiable opposition to its policies."?

According to the UN, Hamas is not a designated terrorist organistion.
And yes, UK is exploiting domestic law to prevent fair discussion of its policies.
It's not the first nor only time that this government has deviated from the UN's opinions.

 

[transam]

All this hoo Haa over some word

Who cares if dazzler or any one else does not think they are terrorists

Fact is hamas ‘ Hezbollah the mad mullers and co are a bunch of dangerous fruit cakes and as such need bumping off

Some fruit cake in the states has stabbed two palistinian ( children ? )

Bump him off as well

 

[Roy Bloom]

I suspect the reason is complex, maybe too complex for this forum, because some dishonest poster is bound to misinterpret what I'm about to present:

There's always going to be at least one:

Hamas are a designated terrorist group - if you publish anything to support them - you are committing a criminal offence, in the UK.

Maybe there's more yet.