Israel under attack

Israeli IDF spokes person on news this morning

Accusing the BBC of spreading porkies and mis imfomation about the incident ??

That is not true

The BBC have not attributed blame on either hamas or the IDF ??

One would have thought it might have been sensible to pause the air raids on Gaza as Biden was visiting Israel ??

That’s his visit effed up
 
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  1. Israel says a blast at a hospital in Gaza on Tuesday evening was caused by a rocket misfired by Palestinian militants
  2. The IDF says its evidence shows a Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket, fired from a cemetery, landed in the hospital car park
  3. Israel presented images and transcripts of conversations at a press briefing on Wednesday morning
 
Remember when a hospital in Ukraine was hit last year? The BBC was quick to attribute the incident to a Russian missile, despite their denials, saying it was a Ukrainian missile that fell short. Now, a hospital in Gaza is hit and similar claims are made by the Israeli government and most people are not so quick to condemn, calling for an investigation, a call to verify conflicting claims: it can't be Israel, surely, they say. They're the good guys, right? They were the ones who were attacked in the first place, so they have the right to defend themselves.
The problem is, Netanyahu cannot be trusted. He is a war criminal, a crook and a first rate cad.
When the journalist from Al Jazeera was shot the IDF denied all knowledge and only admitted it when video footage of the soldier taking the shot came to light. Now they simply say he will face no charges and nothing is done about it. Israel gets away with it. It always does. America will always stand behind them and dare Iran to do anything about it, while the UK just nods along.

I'd like to think Israel wouldn't target a hospital and a church where Palestinians sought food, shelter and sanctuary from the storm but i cannot believe a regime which has constantly ignored international law at the expense of a people who're being pushed from their homeland. Israel can pass laws to tell me it's all legal but it doesn't make it right in any sense. This is not justice. This is murder. Taking an eye for an eye makes people blind to the truth, regardless of religion, and i have to ask: how many more have to perish for Israel to stop this insanity? Is the price for justice ten Arabs for every Jew? A hundred? A thousand? Where does it stop this time?

Today is declared a Day of Rage across the Islamic world and who among us can honestly say they blame them - would you not feel the same?
 
Looking at recent pics, it looks like it was the car park that was hit!!

Hamas are lying, evil, terrorist scum bags!
 
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All the praying religious leaders are doing is having a positive effect on all this, keep it up lads ...

I just keep on thinking about all the innocent people caught up in this.
 
Just leave these here. Seen this before.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israel-carried-out-gaza-strike-that-killed-5-children-report-says

JEBALIYA, Gaza Strip (AP) — A Palestinian human rights group and an Israeli newspaper reported Tuesday that an explosion in a cemetery that killed five Palestinian children during the latest flare-up in Gaza was caused by an Israeli airstrike and not an errant Palestinian rocket.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-f...ldren-in-gaza-during-recent-operation-report/

IDF finds Israeli strike killed 5 children in Gaza during recent operation – report​

Military reportedly initially thought children were killed by a failed rocket launch, as was the case a day earlier​


Schrodingers Palestinian in the same breath they are evil, efficient and cunning yet they do seem to bomb themselves with alacrity. :LOL:
 
The hospital was hit on Saturday, an Anglican priest connected with the Jerusalem Diocese confirmed last night on the BBC.

the Palestine Chronicle.com
 
UN school hit too - was jammed with people hoping it was a safe place.
 
You're the only proven liar on here Roy, a liar and a racist, someone devoid of etiquette, and quite frankly, a rotter.
Malevolent, vexacious accusations.
Nothing more, nothing less.
If fillyboy had any evidence, he'd present it. But instead he claims the dog ate his homework. :rolleyes:
 
The only good thing about this tragedy in Gaza ,is that it has taken Russell Brand of the Front pages.
 
What I find ironic is that the Pro Israel brigade who are supporting the war on Palestinians , are the same people who called for UK intervention in Syria to prevent Assad from doing exactly the same thing that Netanyahu is doing in Gaza.
Very strange.
 
Notch7 is a proven liar, so anything he's says has to be read with that in mind.
I suppose supporting the Hamas evil terrorist group is an alternative viewpoint….just a very bad one
I have never expressed support for Hamas. And you have never presented any evidence to support your accusation. (did the dog eat your homewrok as well? :ROFLMAO: )

regarding A/73L.42

1) the resolution was put forward by USA, and votes wouldve been rather like Eurovision, ie USA haters voted against on principle
In your opinion it was the equivalent of the Eurovision. :rolleyes:
And you've even been able to allocate the reason for the various countries who voted against it. Wow, that's some psychic powers you have. :ROFLMAO:
But it at least shows that you've read it now. :rolleyes:


2) it was not a resolution on whether or not to designate Hamas as terrirists, so doesn’t support your argument
What do you think it was, a vote on where to hold the next G7 meeting? :rolleyes:

3) the resolution was voted for 87 in favour to 57 against -so UN general assembly voted majority in favour
You're convenientl;y ignoring the 33 abstentions. That makes it a a refusal to adopt the resolution under the UN voting regulations.
Your arguument is dishonest becasue you fail to present the whole picture.


4) have a look at those who voted against: haters of Israel, Kuwait, Iran, United Arab Emirates, Yemen, Bahrain, Afghanistan
You think these countries should be denied a vote, or their vote is somehow of less value than US or UK, etc?
What planet are you on?

I say again:
Some idiot thinks this isn't proof that UN do not consider Hamas as terrorists.

General Assembly Adopts Text Reiterating Call for Comprehensive Middle East Peace, after Failing to Pass Resolution Condemning Actions by Hamas in Gaza​

Prior to adopting that draft, the Assembly failed to adopt another text titled “Activities of Hamas and other militant groups in Gaza” (document A/73/L.42).
The representative of the United States — who introduced draft “L.42
NIKKI HALEY (United States), introducing a draft resolution titled “Activities of Hamas and other militant groups in Gaza” (document A/73/L.42),
she stressed, “The General Assembly must be on record condemning Hamas’ terrorism,"

It's there, plain as daylight.
Maybe the five syllable words confused them :rolleyes:
The resolution was not accepted. UN do not designate Hamas as terrorists.
And because the wording of "other militant groups in Gaza" other militant groups in Gaza were also not designated as terrorists.

As sure as day follows night Israel is trying to sway public opinion that Hamas are like ISIS,, i.e. Islamic terorists.
Going back to the four objectives of so called terrorism, that I presented a day or so ago post 1124 of this thread:

Secondly, there are four identiable reasons for "terrorist" actions. (I'm using the words "terrorist actions" simply for convenience)
... terrorist actors are motivated differentially through four goal-oriented strains: socialism, nationalism, religious extremism or exclusionism.
https://www.unodc.org/documents/e4j/18-04932_CT_Mod_01_ebook_FINALpdf.pdf
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Hamas is clearly not a religious extremist organisation. it has much more a nationalist goal.
As a movement, it tends to promote the interests of a particular nation (as in a group of people)

Nationalism - Wikipedia


en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
As such the UN does not designate Hamas (nor Hezbollah) as terrorists.
Israel is trying to sway public opinion that Hamas are 'terrorsits' pursuing religious extremism. That is clearly not the goal of Hamas.
 
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Remember when a hospital in Ukraine was hit last year? The BBC was quick to attribute the incident to a Russian missile, despite their denials, saying it was a Ukrainian missile that fell short. Now, a hospital in Gaza is hit and similar claims are made by the Israeli government and most people are not so quick to condemn, calling for an investigation, a call to verify conflicting claims: it can't be Israel, surely, they say. They're the good guys, right? They were the ones who were attacked in the first place, so they have the right to defend themselves.
The problem is, Netanyahu cannot be trusted. He is a war criminal, a crook and a first rate cad.
When the journalist from Al Jazeera was shot the IDF denied all knowledge and only admitted it when video footage of the soldier taking the shot came to light. Now they simply say he will face no charges and nothing is done about it. Israel gets away with it. It always does. America will always stand behind them and dare Iran to do anything about it, while the UK just nods along.

I'd like to think Israel wouldn't target a hospital and a church where Palestinians sought food, shelter and sanctuary from the storm but i cannot believe a regime which has constantly ignored international law at the expense of a people who're being pushed from their homeland. Israel can pass laws to tell me it's all legal but it doesn't make it right in any sense. This is not justice. This is murder. Taking an eye for an eye makes people blind to the truth, regardless of religion, and i have to ask: how many more have to perish for Israel to stop this insanity? Is the price for justice ten Arabs for every Jew? A hundred? A thousand? Where does it stop this time?

Today is declared a Day of Rage across the Islamic world and who among us can honestly say they blame them - would you not feel the same?
And each time the hatred is intensified from both sides.
 
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