Italy's Lampedusa pleads for help

[gant]

The bit where it talks about everyone being equal.

 

[denso13]

The bit where it talks about everyone being equal.

Does it? Where?

 

[gant]

In the literature.

 

[denso13]

We'll just add it to the list...

 

[gant]

Do you need wet nursing?

 

[denso13]

What a strange thing to say.

 

[gant]

'look after someone as though they are a helpless infant'
Yeah.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

I see this rhetorical framing a lot. 'Whether or not it's going to happen is not the question - you have no choice, it's just a cosmic force like the tides and they're going to flood into your country, all you can do is decide is how you're going to accommodate them once they're here'

I'm not quite sure what side of the debate you're coming down on with this statement. My assertion is migration (legal or otherwise) isn't going away, if the experts are to be believed it's only going to increase, including climate migrants etc. Whether people agree or otherwise, the 'pull up the drawbridge' stance doesn't cut it for a number of reasons. There needs to be a better strategic approach to migration and how it's managed.

Note, none of the above indicates whether I'm pro, anti or sitting on the fence when it comes to folk entering the UK. That's almost irrelevant. Whatever we think, the fact remains we need a more effective and efficient way to deal with the situation than we presently have.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I see this rhetorical framing a lot. 'Whether or not it's going to happen is not the question - you have no choice, it's just a cosmic force like the tides and they're going to flood into your country, all you can do is decide is how you're going to accommodate them once they're here'

Or start planning to do something else, like reducing the desire and need to move to the west for money.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

In the literature.

Just highlight the link, it shouldn't be difficult if you've read that bit

 

[Vinty]

mind you Scotland has just 168 people per square, so they can take a few more as well

Thats because most Scots prefer to live in England.

 

[gant]

Just highlight the link, it shouldn't be difficult if you've read that bit

Go and do it yourself, I've got a busy program watching cricket and racing.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Go and do it yourself, I've got a busy program watching cricket and racing.

I haven't found it. I don't believe it's actually in there.

 

[gant]

I don't believe you.

 

[Vinty]

Post #36.

No.

Animal Farm is a beast fable, in the form of a satirical allegorical novella, by George Orwell, first published in England on 17 August 1945. It tells the story of a group of anthropomorphic farm animals who rebel against their human farmer, hoping to create a society where the animals can be equal, free, and happy.

We had this novel read to us at Primary school.
Never really grasped the underlying message.
But felt sorry for the loyal cart horse that got sent to the knackers yard.
Maybe it was metaphor for the NHS or something.
Apart from that its a great story for kids.