Johnson Is So Useless

[durhamplumber]

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[durhamplumber]

get into one specific hospital down in Cornwall the entrance is right next to the dedicated Covid ward so you have to walk past the windows,you can openly see in and it’s empty.

As told to you by your friend on FB who found out via FB who shared it 678965times via Nigeria,Sudan, US and a few other countries...Lmaooooo.....Of course you know the truth you crazy deluded nobend

 

[Mottie]

They just wouldn’t have a Covid ward that people have to walk past to get into the hospital.

 

[Brigadier]

And I replied "that Flu jabs are administered annually", so where's the risk if yearly Covid 19 vaccines are required?

Flu jabs are administered annually because flu circles the globe on a roughly annual cycle, afaik.
Each year's vaccine is subject to change, to accommodate best assessment of the likely variant doing the rounds.
I am not aware of human immunity waning per se, as the reason for the need for annual re-vaccination.

The above differs from the current understand / narrative wrt the 'rona.
Immunity is currently known / guessed to wane, possibly in months.
The' rona is not annual ; it is persistent.
Due to it being non-annual, any mutation could render any vaccination impotent at any time.

Talk of annual 'rona re-vaccination is very simplistic and doesn't fit the current "understanding", imho.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Flu jabs are administered annually because flu circles the globe on a roughly annual cycle, afaik.
Each year's vaccine is subject to change, to accommodate best assessment of the likely variant doing the rounds.
I am not aware of human immunity waning per se, as the reason for the need for annual re-vaccination.

The above differs from the current understand / narrative wrt the 'rona.
Immunity is currently known / guessed to wane, possibly in months.
The' rona is not annual ; it is persistent.
Due to it being non-annual, any mutation could render any vaccination impotent at any time.

Talk of annual 'rona re-vaccination is very simplistic and doesn't fit the current "understanding", imho.

Thank you Brigadier.
The mortality rate of Covid is far greater than flu.
An annual operation of Covid vaccinations would have to mirror the current operation going on in UK and other countries.

 

[Brigadier]

Thank you Brigadier.
The mortality rate of Covid is far greater than flu.
An annual operation of Covid vaccinations would have to mirror the current operation going on in UK and other countries.

You are presuming that the 'rona will retain the (currently unacceptable) mortality and morbidity rates.

The 'rona is a coronavirus.
Like a number of other "colds".

Recorded history is evidence (AFAIK) that the human race has not been heavily-blighted or existentially-threatened by "colds".

I have posted before that, if likely history repeats and we did nothing, this 'rona will either die out itself, or will de-evolve / we gain immunity until it is just another "common cold".

 

[JP_]

This photo of doctors and nurses pretending to be exhausted was shared on FB this morning. All faking it. They probably had a big night out and just hungover, we all know doctors and nurses like to party and not work!

 

[Brigadier]

This photo of doctors and nurses pretending to be exhausted was shared on FB this morning. All faking it. They probably had a big night out and just hungover, we all know doctors and nurses like to part and not work!
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My sister is a theatre sister.
You can go into any hospital, in any year, and take a photo which will give the same impression.
Front line health care has always been touring and stressful, not just since the 'rona.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

You are presuming that the 'rona will retain the (currently unacceptable) mortality and morbidity rates.

The current mortality rate is far higher than the flu, and we take precautions against flu.
It's sensible not to assume that the mortality rate will not reduce on its own. It's probably immoral to make such an assumption anyway, it's akin to relying on the herd immunity model.

The 'rona is a coronavirus.
Like a number of other "colds".

With far more serious consequences, and more transmittable.

Similarities and Differences between Flu and COVID-19
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm​

Recorded history is evidence (AFAIK) that the human race has not been heavily-blighted or existentially-threatened by "colds".
I have posted before that, if likely history repeats and we did nothing, this 'rona will either die out itself, or will de-evolve / we gain immunity until it is just another "common cold".

It's foolish and dangerous to rely on such weak hopes. What if you're wrong?????
What about the consequences along the way, even if you were right?

 

[Brigadier]

The current mortality rate is far higher than the flu, and we take precautions against flu.
It's sensible not to assume that the mortality rate will not reduce on its own. It's probably immoral to make such an assumption anyway, it's akin to relying on the herd immunity model.


With far more serious consequences, and more transmittable.

Similarities and Differences between Flu and COVID-19
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm​

It's foolish and dangerous to rely on such weak hopes. What if you're wrong?????
What about the consequences along the way, even if you were right?

My post was written as one post, precisely because its meaning is meant to be taken as a whole.
Your chopping it up (to dissect each part in isolation) takes each out of its context, and therefore renders your points irrelevant.

My post was purely factual; I made no moral judgements.
For you to ascribe a moral stance to me, where none existed or was implied or intended, is disingenuous.

 

[durhamplumber]

we gain immunity until it is just another "common cold".

was never,will not be ""just a cold"" whichever way you dress it up...Same as your leg hanging off is not "" bit of a scratch"" or Colera is a bit of a tummy ache

 

[Trazor]

My sister is a theatre sister.
You can go into any hospital, in any year, and take a photo which will give the same impression.
Front line health care has always been touring and stressful, not just since the 'rona.

In all my years of visiting hospitals day and night, I have never seen staff sleeping as in the above pictures.

Either the pictures are fake (not), or they are taken of staff totally stressed out due to Covid 19.

 

[Mottie]

Don't blame youngsters, it is not their fault. Most are following the rules. Blame the people who decided to have family gatherings at Christmas time, blame people who needlessly take their children to the supermarket, blame people not wearing a masks.

And blame these 400 selfish ****s. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55764673

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

My post was written as one post, precisely because its meaning is meant to be taken as a whole.
Your chopping it up (to dissect each part in isolation) takes each out of its context, and therefore renders your points irrelevant.

Just assimilate all of my response into one in your mind. I'm sure your capable doing that. And allow others to deal with as they see fit.

My post was purely factual; I made no moral judgements.
For you to ascribe a moral stance to me, where none existed or was implied or intended, is disingenuous.

Are you feeling a little over sensitive?
I didn't ascribe a moral stance to you. I correctly ascribed it to your posited argument.
I suggest you take a chill pill.

 

[Lower]

Then how come some countries have been successful?
Sure a vaccine is the ultimate option, but it has only limited value in the short term.
Then there's the risk that a vaccine will never be the ultimate successful measure. There's always the risk that annual vaccines will be required.

Surely your argument is the wrong way round.

Lockdowns will only be viable in the short term. Life has to continue, we have to import significant amounts of goods which means inter country travel. We wouldn't be able to keep the virus out long term even if the public would accept suppressing it here with major limitations on movement, contact, facemasks ete etc.

Whereas annual vaccines would work in the long term unless the virus somehow becomes resistant to all vaccines.