Labour councillor inciting violence.

[carmanmemoranda]

Sounds like he’s heading for prison.

Following his appearance at Westminster Magistrates' Court, Jones was remanded into custody.

He did not enter a plea, and his next appearance will be at Inner London Crown Court on 6 September.

Good.

See also post 31. Hope the 2 tier policing doesn't happen

 

[motorbiking]

Do you see the crimes as the same?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Do you see the crimes as the same?

No.
But very similar.

1 encouraged cutting throats

1 encouraged burning down buildings full of people.

You wouldn't be defending 1 would you?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Do you see the crimes as the same?

Looks like she has been charged too. Again, not 2 tier policing

Wife of Northamptonshire councillor charged with racial hatred

She is due to appear before magistrates on Saturday.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[motorbiking]

I’m not defending her. She won’t go to prison

 

[JonathanM]

I’m not defending her. She won’t go to prison

It looks like she's been charged with a different and presumably less serious offence?

 

[motorbiking]

Yes.

If she gets a good lawyer I can’t see the hate aggravation element sticking.

I can’t see a motive of hate.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Slightly OT but related to all these threads, it'll be interesting to see if the authorities and government keep the forward momentum going re social media and folk not being able to hide behind it when doing anything illegal, in these cases inciting racial hatred etc.

I also think those who own and manage social media companies need further held to account. Someone on Newsnight summed it up quite nicely. They said in their view these platforms are essentially like publishers. However if any of this stuff was published in traditional media (e.g. physical newspaper or their website) the company would quite rightly be hauled over the coals.

However the likes of Musk are defiant and adamant X doesn't fall into these categories and should remain a platform of 'free speech.'

 

[motorbiking]

It looks like she's been charged with a different and presumably less serious offence?

Public Order Act 1986

An Act to abolish the common law offences of riot, rout, unlawful assembly and affray and certain statutory offences relating to public order; to create new offences relating to public order; to control public processions and assemblies; to control the stirring up of racial hatred; to provide...

www.legislation.gov.uk

It just shows how stupid some of the posters are on this site.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I can’t see a motive of hate.

alleged that on 29 July, the day of the Southport knife killings, she posted on X saying: "Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f****** hotels full of the bas***** for all I care..


Yep, no hate in there

 

[gas112]

 

[motorbiking]

alleged that on 29 July, the day of the Southport knife killings, she posted on X saying: "Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f****** hotels full of the bas***** for all I care..


Yep, no hate in there

May be take a look and the charging standard before getting upset.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

May be take a look and the charging standard before getting upset.

I'm not upset

She has been charged. So its not 2 tier policing .

Different crime, different charge. But equal standards. That's all I ask for

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I’m not defending her.

So, you are happy that she has been charged I assume

 

[diy_fun_uk]

alleged that on 29 July, the day of the Southport knife killings, she posted on X saying: "Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f****** hotels full of the bas***** for all I care..


Yep, no hate in there

It's how it can all interlink that people are either oblivious to or are aware of, which is even more chilling.

For example, person A might post online 'they can all die as far as I'm concerned!' but person A might have zero intention of actually doing anything physical. Whereas if enough persons A post this sort of stuff, it can be read by persons B who are intent on doing something physical. So the B's become more enraged and emboldened by the A's if that makes sense. But the A's say 'eh, but all I did was post a slightly dodgy message online?!?'

As is usually the case in life, the minority spoil things for the majority. I expect further (possibly restrictive) controls on social media and perhaps wider Internet use will follow, all thanks to those who abuse it.