oh dear,
lets fill in those holes.
gents if this was the place to discuss which really it isnt id recommend a good read of the regs,paying particular note to the following
pg 65 guidance 219
26.9 and the 4 items
appendix 1
what a landlord should offer and the work required for a safety check are quite different.If you think because a form says something it must be done your very much mistaken.
so are some of us saying a landlord does NOT need to confirm the gas carcass that he owns, allows a tenant to use and is therefore legally responsible for is fit for purpose and confirmed as safe to use?
so are some of us saying a landlord does NOT need to confirm the gas carcass that he owns, allows a tenant to use and is therefore legally responsible for is fit for purpose and confirmed as safe to use?
I don't think anyone has said that at all. It's more a debate as to whether a tightness test is required on the annual safety inspection, like the required checks under 26.9 and required information under 36.3.c.
Personally, I think it a shame that the regulations don't require tightness tests as a part of the requirements for landlords safety checks, as well as servicing to manufacturers instructions. Not all landlords are clued up to requirements or scrupulous. At least it if these things were required, there'd be no grey area.
36.1 will be the deffinition
36.2 tells you what the landlord should do.
However like i said what the landlord should do and what you have to do are completely different.As a gas eng im only bothered anbout my requirements not the landlords.
So like you've agreed, a TT's not stated as being required,you dont have to prove its sound but the landlord should ensure it is,if he doesnt actually ASK for a tightness test theres no requirement to carryone out.
What about if the landlord has no gas appliance's fitted in a property , e.g they were all removed , but he still has a gas supply ??? does the landlord , than require a LT certificate ??? No ????
What about if the landlord has no gas appliance's fitted in a property , e.g they were all removed , but he still has a gas supply ??? does the landlord , than require a LT certificate ??? No ????
36.1 will be the deffinition
36.2 tells you what the landlord should do.
However like i said what the landlord should do and what you have to do are completely different.As a gas eng im only bothered anbout my requirements not the landlords.
So like you've agreed, a TT's not stated as being required,you dont have to prove its sound but the landlord should ensure it is,if he doesnt actually ASK for a tightness test theres no requirement to carryone out.
Answer this Honestly then mate.
If you were to have a GS Inspection tomorrow and it was on a lanlords, would you
A. Do the tightness test or
B. Not and show him pages from a book.
Answer honestly please!!!
36.1 will be the deffinition
36.2 tells you what the landlord should do.
However like i said what the landlord should do and what you have to do are completely different.As a gas eng im only bothered anbout my requirements not the landlords.
So like you've agreed, a TT's not stated as being required,you dont have to prove its sound but the landlord should ensure it is,if he doesnt actually ASK for a tightness test theres no requirement to carryone out.
Answer this Honestly then mate.
If you were to have a GS Inspection tomorrow and it was on a lanlords, would you
A. Do the tightness test or
B. Not and show him pages from a book.
Answer honestly please!!!
you've asked so here goes
if were to carryout a cp12 at one of the social landlords we have as a client,regardless of who came with me then I would not carryout a tightness test.
If my gsr inspector were to quiz me on it,I would
ask him to tell me where it says I should before me
pouting out where it says I don't have to.then as I know him,I'm
sure a heated debate would follow.
Food for thought,my last gsr inspection visited 2 sites, 1 where the use of the factories act made it hard for him to actually make any critisms,the 2 being a building where the gas never goes off,never.
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