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Liar .............
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imamartian
he's right... don't take away any more police (or the courts') powers !!!
I can't wait for the moaning when the copper gets a slapped wrist. 
Tears before bedtime???? BEDLAM I tell ya BEDLAM
Tears before bedtime???? BEDLAM I tell ya BEDLAM
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imamartian
Harwood may be a tv@t, but don't beat up the police force based on him...!!
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ACAB
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imamartian
ACAB
that's not true and says far more about you than previously revealed !!
i suggest everyone esle googles "ACAB" !!
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ACAB
Actually you've just admitted i'm right... a few pages ago i said you lot were cop-haters....
I'm so glad you lot are in the minority !!!!
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imamartian
ACAB
Actually you've just admitted i'm right... a few pages ago i said you lot were cop-haters....
I'm so glad you lot are in the minority !!!!
ACAB
ACAB was tattooed on the knuckles of some of the plebs in my class at school years ago.
Ahhh the memories.
ACAB
Actually you've just admitted i'm right... a few pages ago i said you lot were cop-haters....
I'm so glad you lot are in the minority !!!!
Get a grip of youself man!!
ACAB
Actually you've just admitted i'm right... a few pages ago i said you lot were cop-haters....
I'm so glad you lot are in the minority !!!!
You're repeating yourself
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If you care to read, the list isn't meant to show all 4000... but the memorial represents them...
That's 4000+ people who have pledged to put their lives on the line to uphold law and order.... and died in the cause - not snipe at people on an anonymous internet forum !!
And it includes those that die of heart attack, suicide and every other cause that has nothing to do with police work. The list of those that actually die in the line of duty (not eating sausages) is tiny.
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wellsomebodyhastosay
The 'shove' was in the back of a man who wasn't particularly steady on his feet , wasn't looking and had his hands in his pockets preventing him breaking his fall.
If someone had deliberately shoved your grandad in the street perhaps for walking too slow and he had died and it had been caught on tape would you say 'he did not mean to kill him' or 'string him up'?
The Police had plenty of options in this case. They could have arrested and handcuffed Mr Tomlinson if they felt his actions warranted it. None of the other officers around PC Harwood seemed that concerned.
TBH the other officers around Harwood were very lucky that having witnessed a shambling man being shoved over from behind the mob of actual rioters did not turn on them.
Lets be honest. If a mob really decided as a group to take out ten or twelve police officers using strength of numbers then they could. The only thing stopping that happening is the view that the police are upholding the law and have the authority to do so.
It would only take two or three more officers behaving like Harwood before the whole police were discredited and seen as legitimate targets.
I am a law abiding citizen and believe as you do in the need for the Police to maintain law and order. However I do not actually believe in 'kettling' as a legitimate form of crowd control as it breaches the fundemental human right of innocent until proven guilty.
Mr Tomlinson was in the rioting area but was not a rioter simply a Londoner caught up in the wrong place and probably being driven in the opposite direction of where he actually wanted to go and into the middle of a load of rioters surrounded by Police bearing riot shields , shouting orders and threatening tear gas and police horses , baton charges etc.
I would not have succumed meekly to being herded in that way had I been in London that day and been there on other non riot related business and would without doubt have been arrested for refusing to be bullied into the kettling area.
Kettling is essentially confinement. The court of human rights has said it is legal.
It has not mentioned whether its legality has certain conditions attached.
If an innocent person is pushed into a kettle and is subsequently crushed by the crowd within I would also expect another murder charge to be brought against the police.
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Actually you've just admitted i'm right... a few pages ago i said you lot were cop-haters....
I'm so glad you lot are in the minority !!!!
yes I hate coppers, they are rotten to the core. cant speak for everyone else.
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