Loads of Albanians

[Vinty]

But its the fault of EU France USA Labour etc, not our government !

That is about right.
American foreign policy in the middle east caused floods of migrants into Europe.
The EUs policy of destabilising Eastern Europe has caused floods of migrants into Western Europe.
The Labour policy under the Blair regime of opening Britain's borders to EU migrants has contributed to the present crisis in the English channel.

 

[Pat ex]

I thought they had a legal obligation to claim asylum in the first safe country they arrived in.
Maybe France isn't a safe country.

Again a re-hash of old right wing and false tropes.

 

[JohnD]

Labour

Conservative governments have been in power for the last twelve years, and Brexers for six

I wonder who is responsible for our current situation?

No I don't

 

[Vinty]

Again a re-hash of old right wing and false tropes.

, Article 31 of the UN Refugee Convention states that refugees cannot be penalised for entering the country illegally to claim asylum if they are “coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened”
Is France an unsafe country for these illegals.

 

[Pat ex]

, Article 31 of the UN Refugee Convention states that refugees cannot be penalised for entering the country illegally to claim asylum if they are “coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened”
Is France an unsafe country for these illegals.

UK case law has cleared up that misconception:

This has been recognised by the courts in England and Wales. In the landmark case landmark case of R v Uxbridge Magistrates Court (ex parte Adimi) [1999] Imm AR 560 Lord Justice Simon Brown held that refugees did not have to claim asylum in countries through which they pass to reach safety in order to be protected by Article 31:

Should refugees claim asylum in the first safe country they reach? - Free Movement

Over and over again we hear that refugees should claim asylum in the first safe country the reach. There are variations on the theme. Genuine refugees claim

freemovement.org.uk

 

[Vinty]

Conservative governments have been in power for the last twelve years, and Brexers for six

I wonder who is responsible for our current situation?

No I don't

The problem with the present political system, is that there is no penalty for failure.
Boris has left office but he can't be held responsible for any failure of his policies.
On the contrary, he has already been offered a million pound advance for his book, there also a film about him.
Blair was the same, he wrecked other peoples countries including his own, for which he received a standing ovation in Parliament.

 

[Vinty]

UK case law has cleared up that misconception:

Should refugees claim asylum in the first safe country they reach? - Free Movement

Over and over again we hear that refugees should claim asylum in the first safe country the reach. There are variations on the theme. Genuine refugees claim

freemovement.org.uk

That Judge is talking ******.
Article 31 clearly states that an asylum seeker has to be coming directly from an unsafe country for his claim to be considered legitimate.

 

[Pat ex]

That Judge is talking ******.
Article 31 clearly states that an asylum seeker has to be coming directly from an unsafe country for his claim to be considered legitimate.

You obviously think you can interpret the UN Charter better than the British Judges.
You're welcome to your opinion.
I'll rely on the judges opinion.

 

[noseall]

Article 31 clearly states that an asylum seeker has to be coming directly from an unsafe country for his claim to be considered legitimate.

That's not strictly true and only outlines just one of the classifications for seeking asylum.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

That is about right.
American foreign policy in the middle east caused floods of migrants into Europe.
The EUs policy of destabilising Eastern Europe has caused floods of migrants into Western Europe.
The Labour policy under the Blair regime of opening Britain's borders to EU migrants has contributed to the present crisis in the English channel.

Maybe, but it's not that simple.

this government has made it worse, not better, for all their promises of sorting it.

whilst they have this issue to keep so many angry, but happy to listen to empty promise s then they won't do anything.

 

[ajohn]

Is France an unsafe country for these illegals.

There is nothing stated about destination and often there are other reason some want to come here - relatives, people they know. Even that they speak english. That is getting more common in younger people.

You also neglect to mention other countries they may have passed through. Some travel a rather long way on their own or in groups.

 

[Notch7]

The EUs policy of destabilising Eastern Europe

Baloney

 

[Notch7]

Boris has left office but he can't be held responsible for any failure of his policies

Brexit was a con, so it was always going to end in failure.

 

[JohnD]

Yes.

But by all means waste your time trying to find a law that says what you think it does.

Note:
Rants by the racist Daily Wail, or the racist Priti Useless, are not laws.

Vinty has failed to find a law, so, like an angry monkey, he resorts to flinging his dung.

 

[ajohn]

That's not strictly true and only outlines just one of the classifications for seeking asylum.

If I say it's a more complex subject than some would like it to be that about sums it all up. However it is as it is and due to convention and applies to a lot of countries.
According to main channel news rather than TikTok style news some Albanians are allowed to stay. Why - I have no idea other than it suggests they meet the rules.
The other aspect is some countries manage to cope with more arrivals. I wonder why we can't especially in the area of deportation which relates to processing time. If a country doesn't keep up the numbers waiting just keep increasing. The new detention centre which is probably still not doing anything has been around for a long time. We get plenty of yah boo what about action?