Mask wearing does help reduce community transmission

[Notch7]

"It is pathetic and ludicrous to say we ever vanquished smallpox with vaccines, when only 10% of the population was ever vaccinated."

thats tosh

The global eradication effort, led by D.A. Henderson, originally used a strategy of mass vaccination campaigns to achieve 80% vaccine coverage in each country. This goal proved difficult to attain in many underdeveloped countries, but a serendipitous discovery led to a more effective strategy.

And in areas where the 80% threshold was not achieved, another method was used:

This strategy, known as surveillance-containment or ring vaccination, led to the disappearance of smallpox in eastern Nigeria even though the population coverage was less than 50%. The relative benefits of ring vaccination versus mass vaccination have been debated, but epidemiological evidence from Africa and Asia suggests that both lower population density and higher population vaccine coverage contributed to the elimination of transmission in many regions.

Were only 10% of the population vaccinated against smallpox?

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[Notch7]

And? what in your imaginary world did he conclude?

the study was retracted as the data was flawed.

in other words he lied

 

[Trazor]

the study was retracted as the data was flawed.

in other words he lied

You do know you keep feeding the Troll, don't you.

 

[Notch7]

You're using wikipedia and you expect me to take this seriously?

What you think the FDA sued Koch the Snake Oil seller for then

 

[noseall]

What you think the FDA sued Koch the Snake Oil seller for then

Notch lad, you are being trolled. The bloke is a moron and a (poorly educated) rubbish troll.

 

[Notch7]

I'm pretty sure they accused him of some kind of fraud, that's their style, which is ironic, being the kings of it themselves, but they failed, twice. No doubt you're a big believer in guilty until proven innocent.

thank you for admitting you dont know why he was sued

so it was nothing to do with small pox vaccine

 

[Notch7]

What has that got to do with the price of fish?

you used it as part of your argument

And? they sued him twice and failed, the medical establishment went after him,

 

[Notch7]

I'm pretty sure

oh well we cant refute evidence of that quality

 

[ajohn]

It is pathetic and ludicrous to say we ever vanquished smallpox with vaccines, when only 10% of the population was ever vaccinated."

Contrary to popular belief, the first state to introduce compulsory vaccinations was the Principality of Lucca and Piombino on September 25, 1806.[77] On August 26, 1807, Bavaria introduced a similar measure. Baden followed in 1809, Prussia in 1815, Württemberg in 1818, Sweden in 1816, England in 1867 and the German Empire in 1874 through the Reichs Vaccination Act.[78][79] In Lutheran Sweden, the Protestant clergy played a pioneering role in voluntary smallpox vaccination as early as 1800.[80] The first vaccination was carried out in Liechtenstein in 1801, and from 1812 it was mandatory to vaccinate.[81]

Compulsory infant vaccination was introduced in England by the 1853 Vaccination Act. By 1871, parents could be fined for non-compliance, and then imprisoned for non-payment.[85]: 202–13  This intensified opposition, and the 1898 Vaccination Act introduced a conscience clause. This allowed exemption on production of a certificate of conscientious objection signed by two magistrates. Such certificates were not always easily obtained and a further Act in 1907 allowed exemption by a statutory declaration which could not be refused. Although theoretically still compulsory, the 1907 Act effectively marked the end of compulsory infant vaccination in England.[85]: 233–38 

Smallpox was eradicated by a massive international search for outbreaks, backed up with a vaccination program, starting in 1967. It was organised and co-ordinated by a World Health Organization (WHO) unit, set up and headed by Donald Henderson. The last case in the Americas occurred in 1971 (Brazil), south-east Asia (Indonesia) in 1972, and on the Indian subcontinent in 1975 (Bangladesh). After two years of intensive searches, what proved to be the last endemic case anywhere in the world occurred in Somalia, in October 1977.[53]: 526–37  A Global Commission for the Certification of Smallpox Eradication chaired by Frank Fenner examined the evidence from, and visited where necessary, all countries where smallpox had been endemic. In December 1979 they concluded that smallpox had been eradicated; a conclusion endorsed by the WHO General Assembly in May 1980.[53]: 1261–62  However, even as the disease was being eradicated there still remained stocks of smallpox virus in many laboratories. Accelerated by two cases of smallpox in 1978, one fatal (Janet Parker), caused by an accidental and unexplained containment breach at a laboratory at the University of Birmingham Medical School, the WHO ensured that known stocks of smallpox virus were either destroyed or moved to safer laboratories. By 1979, only four laboratories were known to have smallpox virus. All English stocks held at St Mary's Hospital, London were transferred to more secure facilities at Porton Down and then to the U.S. at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta, Georgia in 1982, and all South African stocks were destroyed in 1983. By 1984, the only known stocks were kept at the CDC in the U.S. and the State Research Center of Virology and Biotechnology (VECTOR) in Koltsovo, Russia.[53]: 1273–76  These states report that their repositories are for possible anti-bioweaponry research and insurance if some obscure reservoir of natural smallpox is discovered in the future.[

Doh your wrong again and strangely many think the bloke never even said that as no records can be found anywhere. It's an antivaxer invention.

 

[ajohn]

Page 70 first paragraph, and I quote; Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA.

Yes in a sense it is but with RNA not DNA as is the Az one and others. Just what is wrong with that?

It's seen as a safer option than another approach which is to use a weakened natural virus.

Pf is manufacrured. Az is a modified virus known to be harmless to humans. Both offer possible cancer cures and have been used to try and do that. It's been used so there is knowledge about effects. The hope is to train our own immune system to spot and destroy cancer cells in much the same way as the vaccines all work. One of the problems - getting them. Pf types, into the body in the way they need to be was cracked some years ago - rather good fortune for use really. The method was not widely known for some time. Just a research paper waiting for an application.

 

[JP_]

That's simply a propaganda video on the pfizer trial, you know the one, where they wanted to hide the documents for 75 years, it doesn't even remotely address the point I made. I guess you haven't examined those recently released documents at all then, which debunks this nonsense, by their own words.

You only listened to the first 15 seconds, didn't you?

Anyway, bored now. You think all medicine is made up by lizards who've taken over the flat earth, while I believe in science. That's all there is to it.

 

[Notch7]

smallpox was eradicated by improved diet and living conditions

WRONG

No, it’s not true that Smallpox was eradicated by better sanitation rather than the truth, which is that it was eliminated by the first, and most successful vaccination campaign ever mounted.

1. Smallpox was extremely contagious, it spread directly through the air, it didn’t need poor sanitation.
2. Smallpox decline matches the vaccination programs, which pre-date better sanitation by decades. Wide-scale and compulsory vaccination began in the early to mid 1800s, better sanitation (outside London and handful of cities at least) came much later, and for many places has never arrived.
3. If this assertion were true, countries which still have very poor sanitation (which is a significant proportion of the world), would still be suffering from Smallpox. They aren’t.
4. There are diseases like Cholera which are strongly correlated with poor sanitation, so we know what a disease like that looks like, Smallpox didn’t look like that.

 

[Notch7]

It was made before the 'vaccine' was fully released, and certainly before the pfizer trial fraud was exposed. Oh wow, you used some sad old tropes in the absence of any facts, I never saw that coming, and as for science, you wouldn't know it if it hit you between the eyes, quite obviously, but don't fret, the whole mrna 'vaccinated' population are with you on that one. If you were stupid enough to take it, here's some science for you, get a D-Dimer test, it might save your life, you're welcome.

classic signs of a conspiracist -constantly introduce new dishonest claims

ps a minute number of people have suffered clots due to mRNA, although you are a clot

 

[ajohn]

There are diseases like Cholera which are strongly correlated with poor sanitation,

He has his deseases mixed up as well as his mind,

 

[ajohn]

ps a minute number of people have suffered clots due to mRNA, although you are a clot

The other problem is people get them anyway. The only way to compare is pre vaccination and post and when they changed what they did with one brand of vaccine the results were not that clear.