Mask wearing does help reduce community transmission

JobAndKnock said:
This particular "fruitcake" still wears them - in crowded places (rarely, because I try to avoid them), in shops, etc. In fact this particular "fruitcake" was wearing his mask at the pharmacy this morning, being served by a pharmacist who was also wearing a mask, whilst last week at hospital all the staff and all the patients were also wearing masks. Maybe they are all "fruitcakes", too?

OK, so wearing them all the time is (and was always) a bit OTT and is not something I have done, but I'm all up for protecting myself from other members of society. Maybe having had cancer (with the consequent deleterious effects on my immune system) makes me a tad more cautious - but at least I haven't had a cold in more than 2 years. That's a bonus!

In any case people are still dying from COVID
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Yes and nobody has died of the flue for the last 2 years , funny that isnt it!
 
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andy11 said:
The earlier graph was deaths per 100,000 of population
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Erm, so was the one I posted...

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denso13 said:
No, it isn't. Why not post up any evidence you have for....ah nevermind.
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You and Notch7 are doing a grand job fighting the nutters, unfortunately their ignorance has reached new heights, and they bask in their stupidity.
 
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denso13 said:
Fill your boots. Let me know which specific points you disagree with.

Eurosurveillance | Efficacy and effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 infection: interim results of a living systematic review, 1 January to 14 May 2021

Evidence on COVID-19 vaccine efficacy/effectiveness (VE) in preventing asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections is needed to guide public health recommendations for vaccinated people. We report interim results of a living systematic review. We identified a total of 30 studies that investigated VE...
www.eurosurveillance.org www.eurosurveillance.org


Eurosurveillance | Effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 infection with the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant: second interim results of a living systematic review and meta-analysis, 1 January to 25 August 2021

The Delta variant has become the dominant strain of SARS-CoV-2. We summarised the evidence on COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness (VE) identified in 17 studies that investigated VE against different endpoints. Pooled VE was 63.1% (95% confidence interval (CI): 40.9–76.9) against asymptomatic...
www.eurosurveillance.org www.eurosurveillance.org

www.medrxiv.org

A systematic review of COVID-19 vaccine efficacy and effectiveness against SARS-CoV-2 infection and disease

Billions of doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been administered globally, dramatically reducing SARS-CoV-2 incidence and severity in some settings. Many studies suggest vaccines provide a high degree of protection against infection and disease, but precise estimates vary and studies differ in...
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link.springer.com

Real-world effectiveness of BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine: a meta-analysis of large observational studies - Inflammopharmacology

This paper aims to summarize through meta-analyses the overall vaccine effectiveness of the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine from observational studies. A systematic literature search with no language restriction was performed in electronic databases to identify eligible observational studies which...
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bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com

Effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern: a systematic review and meta-analysis - BMC Medicine

Background It was urgent and necessary to synthesize the evidence for vaccine effectiveness (VE) against SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern (VOC). We conducted a systematic review and meta-analysis to provide a comprehensive overview of the effectiveness profile of COVID-19 vaccines against VOC...
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www.medrxiv.org

Effectiveness of the mRNA BNT162b2 vaccine six months after vaccination: findings from a large Israeli HMO

Israel is currently experiencing a new wave of CoVid-19 infection, six months after implementing a national vaccination campaign. We carried out three discrete analyses using data from a large Israeli HMO to determine whether IgG levels of those fully vaccinated drop over time, the relationship...
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www.nejm.org

Efficacy of the mRNA-1273 SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine at Completion of Blinded Phase | NEJM

Original Article from The New England Journal of Medicine — Efficacy of the mRNA-1273 SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine at Completion of Blinded Phase
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Does anyone have any comments on this yet?
 

"Understanding the true mortality impact of the COVID-19 pandemic is crucial for public health decision making. Our analysis suggests that 18·2 million (95% UI 17·1–19·6) people died globally because of the COVID-19 pandemic (as measured by excess mortality) between the beginning of the pandemic (Jan 1, 2020) and the end of Dec 2021, which is 3·07-times (2·88–3·30) higher than the reported number of COVID-19-related deaths. Our findings indicate that the full impact of the pandemic has been much greater than what is suggested by official statistics."
 
denso13 said:
So, honestly, where do you get your evidence that makes you believe what you do? Is it just a feeling that something isn't right?
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Denso, seeing as I paid for all your vaccines; all your masks; all your tests; all your time off work etc., would you mind paying my petrol, gas and electric for a couple of years?
 
Risteard said:
You don't need the ludicrous injections to be safe. I've had none and have never felt the need for a ridiculous COVID test. The multiply injected are the ones suffering after a positive test - everyone else knows it's a ridiculously mild ailment.
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Unless you're old, or otherwise susceptible to infections so any can be dangerous. Or just unlucky, after all it's killed enough young fit people that we shouldn't have to keep refuting this sort of nonsense.
 
Risteard said:
It is true though. Every ailment makes some people sick and unfortunately a few will die. COVID isn't unique in that way. It was statistically an extremely safe disease and there's no getting away from that. Deaths from COVID were very few. Counting deaths associated with COVID in a different way to how every other disease is tallied is fraudulent and unforgivable.
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If you had been in a covid ward you would think differently.
 
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