More deaths in the channel.

[motorbiking]

Lying does you no favours. That is a ridiculous claim.

You are proposing a "solution" to the problem which will make it easier for migrants to come to the UK. Or do you think making it easier will reduce demand?
I asked how many will come - you don't say.

 

[Brigadier]

1/5th of their budget is spent on international efforts

@Brigadier Where do you think this is?
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Are you stating that RNLI spend 20% of their budget in French waters?

I recall earlier, you posted that "RNLI taxis" are hailed at halfway i. e. our waters?

 

[motorbiking]

They are not in my head. They are all things you've said. I can go back and link every one if you disagree.

Everybody but you and filly can see clearly the hotspot is in the Thames, followed by solent area and Dover area. Immigrants are NOT THE. HOTSPOT no matter how much you try to claim it.

And as for detention and prosecution read post 461 462.

For a supposedly legal person you are misleading at best, and downright incorrect at worst. Which is it ?

You are part of the problem, by avoiding accepting where the problem and the responsibility lies

what do you propose ?

 

[motorbiking]

Are you stating that RNLI spend 20% of their budget in French waters?

I recall earlier, you posted that "RNLI taxis" are hailed at halfway i. e. our waters?

20% of their activity is rescuing/taxi services for illegal immigrants. The RNLI try to hide this in a press release claiming its just 3% of launches. But when you dig into the data you can see that it's nonsense to compare the cost of launching an 80k dingy with a 100bhp outboard with a £2M+ all weather class. When you look at the costs to operate you get to the number 20% - £30-36M approx.

They frequently enter French waters to collect illagals. This is just the last few days of the dover based vessel. I've added distances to show better on the map. (start is the divider start not the start of the trip). This is MMSI 232002480 in case you want to check.

 

[denso13]

which will make it easier for migrants to come to the UK

Stop lying. It will be the same criteria they are judged on, as now.

 

[motorbiking]

Stop lying. It will be the same criteria they are judged on, as now.

how many please - more or less?

you don't want to say.

 

[denso13]

how many please - more or less?

How many will apply, and how many will meet the asylum criteria? Tell me that and I'll tell you how many.

 

[motorbiking]

Imagine I am a butcher selling the best sausages in Europe. I decide to only sell sausages to people standing in my shop. I try to keep the front door locked. I sell 10 sausages to people who climb in through an open window. I then decide to unlock the front door and sell sausages online. will I:

A sell more
B sell less

let me know if you need a hint.

 

[Brigadier]

Are you stating that RNLI spend 20% of their budget in French waters?

20% of their activity is rescuing/taxi services for illegal immigrants. The RNLI try to hide this in a press release claiming its just 3% of launches. But when you dig into the data you can see that it's nonsense to compare the cost of launching an 80k dingy with a 100bhp outboard with a £2M+ all weather class. When you look at the costs to operate you get to the number 20% - £30-36M approx.

They frequently enter French waters to collect illagals. This is just the last few days of the dover based vessel. I've added distances to show better on the map. (start is the divider start not the start of the trip). This is MMSI 232002480 in case you want to check.

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how many please - more or less?

you don't want to say.

Neither do you.

 

[denso13]

Imagine I am a butcher selling the best sausages in Europe

Are you selling the sausages to only the shoppers who meet a strict criteria? If so, then, if those people meet those butcher set criteria, should they be sold sausages?

Will the butcher monitor things and perhaps change the sausage buying criteria if he might run out of sausages. Or will he blame the sausage selling fiasco he has caused on the fishmonger next door?.

Other butchers seem to sell more sausages than this incompetent butcher.

 

[motorbiking]

Neither do you.

I'm not the one claiming that extra safe and legal routes are the solution to reducing unwanted immigration. Countries that have solved the problem have done so, by making it a less attractive option for those choosing to migrate. I think the easier you make it, the more will come. It doesn't feel like rocket science.

 

[denso13]

It doesn't feel like rocket science.

It isn't.

 

[motorbiking]

So how many will come if we open the door wider?

The reality is this is an international problem needing an international solution. Current strategy seems to make everyone else look more attractive

 

[denso13]

So how many will come if we open the door wider?

How many will apply? How many will meet the criteria?

 

[Brigadier]

I'm not the one claiming that extra safe and legal routes are the solution to reducing unwanted immigration. Countries that have solved the problem have done so, by making it a less attractive option for those choosing to migrate. I think the easier you make it, the more will come. It doesn't feel like rocket science.

I'm questioning your "1/5th of budget" claim.

That you've swerved to something else tells me you made that claim up.