More deaths in the channel.

[denso13]

But then why would you ?

Good question.

 

[motorbiking]

You’re welcome

 

[denso13]

The new act means that no one can apply for asylum if they entered illegally. Which means no one arriving on boats whether the are money grabbing Albanians or desperate people who have a legitimate claim.

That is the fact of the matter. Some might like that we keep everyone out, I don't.

 

[motorbiking]

That defence is specifically excluded in the new act,

(d)provides for protections and entitlements to assistance and support which are available to victims of modern slavery or human trafficking not to apply to persons who are subject to removal under this Act;

Again you haven’t a clue

Immigration - Annex 1 Tables of Immigration Offences | The Crown Prosecution Service

www.cps.gov.uk

 

[denso13]

You are blindly posting links which aren't the legal position.

The law says,

2Duty to make arrangements for removal​

(1)The Secretary of State must make arrangements for the removal of a person from the United Kingdom if the person meets the following four conditions.

(2)The first condition is that—

(a)the person requires leave to enter the United Kingdom, but has entered the United Kingdom—

(i)without leave to enter, or

(ii)with leave to enter that was obtained by means which included deception by any person,

(b)the person has entered the United Kingdom in breach of a deportation order,

(c)the person has entered or arrived in the United Kingdom at a time when they were an excluded person within the meaning of section 8B of the Immigration Act 1971 (persons excluded from the United Kingdom under certain instruments) and—

(i)subsection (5A) of that section (exceptions to section 8B) does not apply to the person, and

(ii)an exception created under, or direction given by virtue of, section 15(4) of the Sanctions and Anti-Money Laundering Act 2018 (power to create exceptions to section 8B) does not apply to the person,

(d)the person requires entry clearance under the immigration rules, but has arrived in the United Kingdom without a valid entry clearance, or

(e)the person is required under immigration rules not to travel to the United Kingdom without an electronic travel authorisation that is valid for that person’s journey to the United Kingdom, but has arrived in the United Kingdom without such an electronic travel authorisation.

(3)The second condition is that the person entered or arrived in the United Kingdom as mentioned in subsection (2) on or after the day on which this Act is passed.

(4)The third condition is that, in entering or arriving as mentioned in subsection (2), the person did not come directly to the United Kingdom from a country in which the person’s life and liberty were threatened by reason of their race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion.

(5)For the purposes of subsection (4) a person is not to be taken to have come directly to the United Kingdom from a country in which their life and liberty were threatened as mentioned in that subsection if, in coming from such a country, they passed through or stopped in another country outside the United Kingdom where their life and liberty were not so threatened.

(6)The fourth condition is that the person requires leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom but does not have it.

(7)Any limited leave to enter or remain given under the immigration rules to a person within section 4(1) (unaccompanied children) is to be disregarded in determining whether the person meets the condition in subsection (6).

(8)In this section—

• “country” includes territory;
• “deportation order” means an order under section 5 of the Immigration Act 1971;
• “electronic travel authorisation” means an authorisation in electronic form to travel to the United Kingdom;
• “entry clearance” has the meaning given by section 33(1) of the Immigration Act 1971.

(9)In this Act “immigration rules” means rules under section 3(2) of the Immigration Act 1971.

(10)Section 11(1) of the Immigration Act 1971 (person deemed not to enter the United Kingdom before disembarkation, while in controlled area or while under immigration control) applies for the purposes of this section as it applies for the purposes of that Act.

(11)The only circumstances in which the duty in subsection (1) does not apply to a person who meets the four conditions in this section are where—

(a)section 4(1) (unaccompanied children) applies to the person,

(b)regulations under section 4(7) (other exceptions) apply to the person,

(c)a Minister of the Crown has made a determination under section 55(2) (interim measures of the European Court of Human Rights) in relation to the person, or

(d)section 61 or 62 of the Nationality and Borders Act 2022 (victims of slavery and human trafficking) apply in relation to the person, so far as they have effect by virtue of section 22 of this Act (modern slavery provisions relating to removal and leave).

 

[denso13]

The CPS have got diddly squat to do with the law. You should know the basics.

 

[motorbiking]

So now you are referring to the illegal immigration act 2023, but don't appear to have read it all or even your own post perhaps? : https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2023/37/enacted

you need to read s22 on. (also s16 on would be worth reading). You should also research which parts of the act have not yet been brought in to force. I'll let you google that and of course nothing in this act has any impact on if a person can be prosecuted or not.

ALL are excluded, WHATEVER the circumstances..

Is therefore wrong. thanks for the dance.

 

[denso13]

Is therefore wrong. thanks for the dance.

No it isn't.

The purpose of the new laws is to reject all asylum claims from those who come here illegally via small boat

All claims that's what you said.

 

[denso13]

So now you are referring to the illegal immigration act 2023

I'm saying that, now, none of the boat people can apply for asylum at all, it doesn't matter how desperte a position they are in. You can waffle on all you like but still can't point to where I'm wrong.

 

[denso13]

(1)The Secretary of State must make arrangements for the removal of a person from the United Kingdom if the person meets the following four conditions.

(2)The first condition is that—

(a)the person requires leave to enter the United Kingdom, but has entered the United Kingdom—

(i)without leave to enter, or

(ii)with leave to enter that was obtained by means which included deception by any person,



Has she arranged this yet? If not, why not? Where will she deport them to?

 

[denso13]

"Sections 2 to 10 (and Schedule 1) place a duty on the Secretary of State to make arrangements for the removal from the UK, as soon as reasonably practicable, of persons who meet the four conditions in section 2. The scheme applies to those who come to the UK illegally on or after 20 July 2023 and have not come directly from a country where their life and freedom were threatened. The duty to make arrangements for removal applies irrespective of whether a person makes a protection claim, human rights claim, or claims to be a victim of modern slavery or human trafficking; protection claims and human rights claims in respect of a person’s home country will be declared to be inadmissible to the UK system."

 

[Notch7]

You are very out of date notch - Albanians are the largest group of small boat illegal immigrants by a significant measure. I’m not interested in who used to come the fact is now they are the largest group. Do some googling and update yourself.

you are WRONG....hence why you are resorting to ad hominems

1) between 2018 and 2023 Albanians made up 14.9% of the total
2) in 2022 72% of small boat arrival were NOT Albanian
3) In the winter of 2022-3 the number of Albanians crossing in small boats dramatically declined (Figure 5), with only 28 making the crossing in the first quarter of 2023
4) Albanian small boat arrivals dropped 99%
5) Of the Albanian migrants who arrived in small boats in 2022, 95% arrived between May and October


So why do you constantly want to focus on Albanians: A =because you want a false narrative giving the impression people arriving by boar are all economic migrants

People crossing the English Channel in small boats - Migration Observatory

This briefing examines the phenomenon of people crossing the English Channel in small boats.

migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk

Albanian small boat crossings surge after a winter drop-off

In the first five months of this year 151 Albanians arrived by small boat, according to published data. But in the past week the running total has doubled to almost 300.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Albanian small boat arrivals fall 99 per cent

With the return of Tory psychodrama and the leak of CCHQ lockdown party videos, Rishi Sunak needs something to go badly right for him. His best hope will be the Court of Appeal green-lighting his Rwanda deportation plan which he hopes will show major progress towards his pledge to ‘stop the...

www.spectator.co.uk

Albanian migrants: Why are they coming to the UK and how many have arrived?

Why are Albanian migrants coming to the UK and how many have arrived?

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[motorbiking]

"Sections 2 to 10 (and Schedule 1) place a duty on the Secretary of State to make arrangements for the removal from the UK, as soon as reasonably practicable, of persons who meet the four conditions in section 2. The scheme applies to those who come to the UK illegally on or after 20 July 2023 and have not come directly from a country where their life and freedom were threatened. The duty to make arrangements for removal applies irrespective of whether a person makes a protection claim, human rights claim, or claims to be a victim of modern slavery or human trafficking; protection claims and human rights claims in respect of a person’s home country will be declared to be inadmissible to the UK system."

so you are not going to read s22 then. oh well. I tried.

 

[motorbiking]

you are WRONG....hence why you are resorting to ad hominems

1) between 2018 and 2023 Albanians made up 14.9% of the total
2) in 2022 72% of small boat arrival were NOT Albanian
3) In the winter of 2022-3 the number of Albanians crossing in small boats dramatically declined (Figure 5), with only 28 making the crossing in the first quarter of 2023
4) Albanian small boat arrivals dropped 99%
5) Of the Albanian migrants who arrived in small boats in 2022, 95% arrived between May and October


So why do you constantly want to focus on Albanians: A =because you want a false narrative giving the impression people arriving by boar are all economic migrants

People crossing the English Channel in small boats - Migration Observatory

This briefing examines the phenomenon of people crossing the English Channel in small boats.

migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk

Albanian small boat crossings surge after a winter drop-off

In the first five months of this year 151 Albanians arrived by small boat, according to published data. But in the past week the running total has doubled to almost 300.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Albanian small boat arrivals fall 99 per cent

With the return of Tory psychodrama and the leak of CCHQ lockdown party videos, Rishi Sunak needs something to go badly right for him. His best hope will be the Court of Appeal green-lighting his Rwanda deportation plan which he hopes will show major progress towards his pledge to ‘stop the...

www.spectator.co.uk

Albanian migrants: Why are they coming to the UK and how many have arrived?

Why are Albanian migrants coming to the UK and how many have arrived?

www.bbc.co.uk

As said - you are out of date.

How many people cross the Channel in small boats and how many claim asylum in the UK?

Keir Starmer has said the UK will "smash the gangs" bringing people to the UK in small boats.

www.bbc.co.uk

You can't go adding up "all the rest" and say they are not the largest group.

 

[denso13]

so you are not going to read s22 then. oh well. I tried.

No I won't be reading it again.