Moving a switched fused spur on kitchen wall

[mwatsonxx]

What's the isolator for?

Isolating

Why can't an appliance be removed without it?

It can.

Are you having trouble answering my previous question? There is nothing dangerous about my advice. Why do you think it is dangerous?

 

[deadshort]

Now,now, play nice, it will end in tears !

DS

 

[mwatsonxx]

Now,now, play nice, it will end in tears !

DS

tears of laughter

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Isolating

But why?

Why do you think the whole circuit should be isolated?

Are you having trouble answering my previous question? There is nothing dangerous about my advice. Why do you think it is dangerous?

I'm not having any trouble at all, it's just that the number of dangers depends on why you proposed a mean of isolation, which is why I tried to clarify.

But we'll start with the fact that this is a ring, so your idea would not isolate it, it would turn it into 2 radials.

 

[deadshort]

O' BAS ………….. !

ds

 

[mwatsonxx]

But why?

Why do you think the whole circuit should be isolated?

I'm not having any trouble at all, it's just that the number of dangers depends on why you proposed a mean of isolation, which is why I tried to clarify.

But we'll start with the fact that this is a ring, so your idea would not isolate it, it would turn it into 2 radials.

Watson - will you PLEASE either just leave the site, or if you stay, stop giving electrical advice.

You are an ignorant fool, telling people to do something dangerous.

Apologise, or clearly explain why my advice is dangerous, come on, give factual details.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

If you put a switch in a ring then when you open it you break the ring. Both resulting (and now not properly protected) radials remain live.

 

[mwatsonxx]

If you put a switch in a ring then when you open it you break the ring. Both resulting (and now not properly protected) radials remain live.

Where did I say anything like that?

Apologise, or clearly explain why my advice is dangerous, come on, give factual details.

Come on BAS, squeak up.

 

[deadshort]

I assume both supply legs of the ring are paired at the 32a switch and connected to the 'suppy' and the kitchen ring is connected to the 'load' ?

DS

 

[EFLImpudence]

Has anyone ever come across a ring final with a switch to isolate it?

That such a thing should be suggested instead of a, quote, "needless" FCU is beyond ridiculous.

 

[deadshort]

Yes, standard practice in control room situations in theatre and recording studios.

DS

 

[EFLImpudence]

How do they do it?

As in your previous post - or a proper lollipop?

 

[deadshort]

Hi, lollipop 6mm -Isolator- ring.
If retro fitted, usually as my original post.

Regards,

ds

 

[EFLImpudence]

What if the ring (already installed) is a proper ring?

That is the conductors do not run together at any point.

 

[deadshort]

Usually it's dado trunking with a 32a switch at one end supplying a run of sockets.


regards,

ds