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[fillyboy]

Stop lying.

You ****. You got it absolutely wrong but as usual you lied.

Im tired of your bs lies, go and provide the evidence that we were fines or the EU forced austerity on us.

Complete liar.

Can you explain short squeeze you ****.

Thank you for your kind words G'had. I didn't say the 'eu forced austerity on us', those are your words. What I've said, and provided links to govt websites which substantiate what I say is that the UK signed the Maastricht treaty and agreed to remedial govt spending restrictions in the event of exceeding certain debt/deficit criteria, that's why half of Europe applied austerity measures, and some of these were socialist countries, no Tory govts there.
So I've provided all the proof required, the fact you refuse to accept it because it doesn't align with your way of thinking really is your problem old boy, not mine.
In 2009/1010 our deficit was 10% of gdp, 2018/2019 it was 1.2% of gdp, that's good no?
In 2009/2010 our debt was 69.6% of gdp , it peaked in 2015 at 86.5% of gdp and has fallen slightly in the last two years to 85.2% of gdp,

So, public debt has fallen slightly but yes far higher than in 2009/2010

You f kin idiot. Debt has gone up.

Stick to watching paint dry.

Yeah but has it?, how much of that debt is a result of quantative easing, quite a chunk as far as I can see, is that debt ever paid back?, no, why would they pay it back, it wouldn't be a magic money trick if they had to pay it back would it?
Please don't ask me to explain the magic money trick of QE because a hell of a lot of financial experts can't really manage it.

Can you explain short squeeze you ****.

I think we both understand what a short squeeze is, and if you think the Porsche/vw type squeeze could happen here think again, that was on the DAX in germany.
No, what you were claiming is that in the event of art 50 being revoked or a 2nd referendum and everyone votes to remain there would be rejoicing in the markets, the FTSE would go through the roof and there would be the mother of all short squeezes as stocks rocket and the Moggster would throw himself off a tall building.

Well, probably not. The FTSE hasn't done too badly in recent years because of the weak pound, in the event of a brexit reversal the pound would rally strongly, FTSE would likely fall because of the strong pound.
That probably wouldn't apply to the shorters favourites, Debenhams and any other retail giant but all that has very little to do with brexit.

I look forward to your customary barrage of insults in riposte, but, I suppose it's all you've got.

 

[Notch7]

Apart from a govt policy following an eu treaties recommendations resulting in less govt spending and the net outcome of a reduced debt and deficit, no mate, no proof at all.

Thats right you havent provided any proof.

Its not easy when it doesnt exist.

If it did, the Telegraph would be blaming the EU for austerity every day of the week.

 

[fillyboy]

Thats right you havent provided any proof.

Its not easy when it doesnt exist.

If it did, the Telegraph would be blaming the EU for austerity every day of the week.

Somebody else is blaming the EU otherwise why would Barroso felt the need to issue a denial.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance...e-for-austerity-says-Jose-Manuel-Barroso.html

"I want to make this clear because there is a myth that it is the European Union that imposes difficult policies. It's not true," Mr Barroso said.

"The cause of the difficulties some countries are facing is excessive public debt created by national governments and irresponsible financial behaviour, that also accumulated excessive private debt including financial bubbles that happened under the responsibility of national supervisors," he added.

"This is why now countries have to make painful adjustments. Britain is having a very tough budget and Britain is not a member of the euro."

The Greeks are a little more direct with their accusations.

https://euobserver.com/opinion/120478

Interesting take on how austerity was the likely cause of brexit.

https://www.newsweek.com/why-austerity-blame-brexit-475702

Great article, describes Notch and G'had to a tee.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/02/04/the-hypocrisy-of-anti-austerity-remainers/


these are just opinion pieces of course, the real proof I've already provided in the form of Govt policy links and the Maastricht Treaty, but you wont accept those because, like Gallahad, you refuse to accept anything that doesn't align with your way of thinking, regardless of the source, wether it be the OECD, HM Gov, EU Gov, which is really a little bit mental isn't it?

Speaking of Gallahad, did you hear how he got on in A & E with his burst blood vessels, I imagine with all those nasty Tory party cutbacks, he's still waiting to be seen.

 

[Vinty]

Had a nice conversation with a Latvian lady at an engagement party tonight.
I asked about life under communism ,she said everyone had a job and things were cheap.
Since her country became independent things have got better for some but worse for others.
Mass emigration is now a fact of life in Latvia, on the subject of the Russians she said when she was young the state media was constantly churning out propaganda about the American threat to their country,stories about Western subversives trying to undermine the state and all that sort of ******.
Since coming to the West she is bemused by the level of Russophobia in the MSM , people are the same everywhere she said ,they always has to be a bogyman (or bogyperson to be politically correct).

 

[fillyboy]

Had a nice conversation with a Latvian lady at an engagement party tonight.

That's what's missing from my life at the moment. Parties and Latvian ladies.

 

[noseall]

Since coming to the West she is bemused by the level of Russophobia

Trump and Bozza aren't bemused. They welcome it.

 

[SirGalahad]

obviously one of your 3 degrees is of no help to you with reference to EU state aid rules ?

Poor Tranny still feeling left out because you didn't get an education. Perhaps it would have helped you work out that State Aid rules are not an obstacle - how did we subsidise Draw Power stattion.

Also you fail to say how how our GDP has grown since being part of the EU - so you forgetting all those jobs.

You're never to old to stop learning, come on TTT finally get something right once in your life.

 

[SirGalahad]

In 2009/2010 our debt was 69.6% of gdp , it peaked in 2015 at 86.5% of gdp and has fallen slightly in the last two years to 85.2% of gdp,

So, public debt has fallen slightly but yes far higher than in 2009/2010

Oh filly. Mincing your words now. I give up. You should work in the financial markets with your knowledge. Is that where you work? If so why not?

Yeah but has it?,

Yeah but has it?, how much of that debt is a result of quantative easing, quite a chunk as far as I can see, is that debt ever paid back?, no, why would they pay it back, it wouldn't be a magic money trick if they had to pay it back would it?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Do you even know how QE works and is accounted for.

So wrong. You deserve all the insults as you get it repeatedly wrong. Dumbest poster on here.

 

[SirGalahad]

Somebody else is blaming the EU otherwise why would Barroso felt the need to issue a denial.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance...e-for-austerity-says-Jose-Manuel-Barroso.html

"I want to make this clear because there is a myth that it is the European Union that imposes difficult policies. It's not true," Mr Barroso said.

"The cause of the difficulties some countries are facing is excessive public debt created by national governments and irresponsible financial behaviour, that also accumulated excessive private debt including financial bubbles that happened under the responsibility of national supervisors," he added.

"This is why now countries have to make painful adjustments. Britain is having a very tough budget and Britain is not a member of the euro."

The Greeks are a little more direct with their accusations.

https://euobserver.com/opinion/120478

Interesting take on how austerity was the likely cause of brexit.

https://www.newsweek.com/why-austerity-blame-brexit-475702

Great article, describes Notch and G'had to a tee.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/02/04/the-hypocrisy-of-anti-austerity-remainers/


these are just opinion pieces of course, the real proof I've already provided in the form of Govt policy links and the Maastricht Treaty, but you wont accept those because, like Gallahad, you refuse to accept anything that doesn't align with your way of thinking, regardless of the source, wether it be the OECD, HM Gov, EU Gov, which is really a little bit mental isn't it?

Speaking of Gallahad, did you hear how he got on in A & E with his burst blood vessels, I imagine with all those nasty Tory party cutbacks, he's still waiting to be seen.

Spiked

hahahahahahahahaha

Wow you have to get a Spiked Article. Well done you won that argument.

 

[SirGalahad]

Thats right you havent provided any proof.

Its not easy when it doesnt exist.

If it did, the Telegraph would be blaming the EU for austerity every day of the week.

But best of all first they want to blame the EU for forcing Austerity on the UK and then say well we don't disagree we needed it. They want Austerity but do not want to take responsibility for it so end with this mental gymnastics.

Here is a prime example.

In the Express two articles one mentioning the Tory plans to increse min wage to £10 and Labour plans for the same and how they are worded.

https://twitter.com/BenJolly9/status/1193239946112327680

Tory

Boris Johnson plan to raise wages across the country receives huge boost from expert.

Labour

Labours minimum wage plan could cost YOUR job and send unemployment soaring

The same policies framed differently. You wonder why the fillies of this world are so warped - they have been feeding on this diet of misinformation, lies and myths.

 

[JP_]

The Tory party is just a marketing machine. As I've mentioned before, the way they have fooled so many working class people into thinking that they represent them and their interests is nothing short of a masterclass in marketing. In years to come it will be studied in universities to better understand how to manipulate the masses.

Johnny Rotten summed it up well:

 

[Brigadier]

Says fillyboy who has been utterly brainwashed by brexit lies.

Whereas you just guessed, when you voted "Leave"?

 

[SirGalahad]

Whereas you just guessed, when you voted "Leave"?

Perhaps he believed the untruths.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-bbc-uses-old-footage-20858947

Why was there need to add in three year old footage to hide a mistake? It was done on purpose.

The issue isn't that he put it upside down - easy to rectify but the fact the BBC has to manipulate the truth by adding in old footage.

 

[JP_]

this made me chuckle

 

[JP_]

And the propaganda is ramping up. This is utterly appalling. It's total BS. The Sun using remembrance day to attack the opposition.