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Where the fear of having open discussion is being replaced by the fear of not having open discussion.
Censorship is hard to maintain.
That's why it's usually only possible under doctorial regime and at great cost to human life and its freedoms.
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The truth is the truth & it can never be hidden, at least not from some of the people most of the time.
In many ways the current situation is being managed with censorship. The 'dictatorial' approach would never work in England, but you only have to look at what is happening elsewhere to see clear evidence.
The number of folk who are now seeing what is really happening is growing day by day & sooner or later they will have to lay their cards on the table.
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It can be confused with fake news, it can be camouflaged with irrelevant noise, it can be glossed over with diversion, it can be ignored by bigotry.
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What do you actually think is really happening?
Yes, anti vaxxers are stuck on the dark side forever.
Why don't you fund it out of one of your many millions you've made from one of your many million pound businesses or million pound bonuses from the stints of employments for the billionaires you rub shoulders with?
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Sad...
"A leading figure in the QAnon conspiracy movement who said that only “idiots” get vaccinated has died of Covid-19."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...n-weldon-qanon-conspiracy-covid-b1989036.html
"A leading figure in the QAnon conspiracy movement who said that only “idiots” get vaccinated has died of Covid-19."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...n-weldon-qanon-conspiracy-covid-b1989036.html
It's very sad when somebody convinces themselves to take an option that maximises their risk of serious illness or death.
But far sadder when they circulate stories that convince other poor saps to do the same.
how is Andy11?
But far sadder when they circulate stories that convince other poor saps to do the same.
how is Andy11?
I'm waiting for the reply to that with bated breath but don't expect one.
They will know before that as by April they need to have a full series of jabs. There has to be a time lag between them.
Care homes have gone ahead with it and although there were lots of complaints about what would happen it was not as bad as they thought.
Israel shows another aspect as well. Get used to it. What ever is done more waves crop up. The jabs reduce all of the collateral damage which isn't just death.
There are some more intelligent business people around who are saying that this can't go on. Some method of limiting / reducing these waves must be found. It suggests some sort of permanent method of limiting spread,
China has one that wouldn't be feasible here. They find a few cases one way or another and lock an entire city down very firmly. Don't even go out. This means that shortly after the incubation period no more people are catching it - end result a much shorter lock down than letting cases build up. They say they will continue to do this at least until 80% of the population is vaccinated.
They have info on how long immunity lasts down to ~90% level following boosters. It's months not a few weeks.
Covid deaths and hospital entries are rising daily. Currently 7 day change +38% deaths and 58% entries. Most people did die if they were going to within 14 days of admission. Around 80% of them. Treatment options may have changed that since then but noises made on that score lately suggests not by all that much if it has. They seem to say a few weeks of an age group in numbers settle that. Numbers as a fair proportions survive but the longer they need to be treated the higher their chances of dying. Ventilation etc. which has lower survival rates.
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I had Covid, my illness started on 15th November, so it was probably Delta. I do have some pre-exsisting conditions having spent a long time in ICU with Sepsis in 2008 and I believe that is why I suffered so bad with Covid. I narrowly avoided hospitalization with my 02 saturation around 90-92 but my pulse was a concern. I tend to get a heart "misfire" when it is stressed so my pulse was only 35-40 and it was a struggle to get it higher. I was asked to go into hospital but I refused. Instead my wife kept watch on me and woke me up if my stats looked too poor.
I refused hospital for two reasons, 1/ I spent too long in there previously 2/ My friends dad fell out of his electric buggy and broke his collar bone and got a minor bleed on the brain, three weeks before I got Covid. He was about to be released but caught Covid in hospital and passed away because of it.
I'll be honest, it is the sickest I have ever felt. My last illness resulted in me being induced in a coma so I can't really count that because I did not actually suffer for long....
I am only just starting to get back to normality now by the way, it has been an uphill struggle...
I refused hospital for two reasons, 1/ I spent too long in there previously 2/ My friends dad fell out of his electric buggy and broke his collar bone and got a minor bleed on the brain, three weeks before I got Covid. He was about to be released but caught Covid in hospital and passed away because of it.
I'll be honest, it is the sickest I have ever felt. My last illness resulted in me being induced in a coma so I can't really count that because I did not actually suffer for long....
I am only just starting to get back to normality now by the way, it has been an uphill struggle...
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