No You Don't just die and thats it.......

Yet it's the theist side of the argument who are trotting out all of the stupid statements on this thread joe, as on all of the other threads. :rolleyes:
Doubt that? read some of mikefromlondons ramblings, or norcons.
 
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No it's not. No-one knows how the universe started, so we can only guess, and have FAITH in that belief. I believe it came from something, you believe it came from nothing - but you don't know that. You have faith in your belief (stupid as that belief is).
 
Yet it's the theist side of the argument who are trotting out all of the stupid statements on this thread joe, as on all of the other threads. :rolleyes:
Doubt that? read some of mikefromlondons ramblings, or norcons.

Start with this one...
The psychologist at 09:00 was full of some sh@it just like the atheists on here

No ramble there, just the truth.
:LOL:
 
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No it's not. No-one knows how the universe started, so we can only guess, and have FAITH in that belief. I believe it came from something, you believe it came from nothing - but you don't know that. You have faith in your belief (stupid as that belief is).

Google 'Scientific method' you numskull

(He hasn't)
 
So my conclusion is that God definitely exists, and he created us above all creatures on earth to be unique, and intelligent and to dominate over other species. Halleluiah! God does exist after all against all argument and he created us and the universe.
Do just believe in the existence of your god Mike or do you acknowledge the gods of all religions?


That is a very good question Jeds, in short yes I do, but with some exceptions, for instance, I don't care if you take Hindus for example who are happy worshipping stone idols, or worshipping a cow, rats or anything for that matter, I know many don't and many worship other gods, including the legend Lord Rama and Lord Krishna, the God himself in an incarnation of a man like figure, but do you see Hindus going around hacking people to death because others won't worship their way!

And if God was not happy with their way of worshipping he could have easily destroyed that race 10 thousand years ago when they first started to practice that religion.

That is what Free will is all about in the first place. Use it wisely, without inflicting pain on to others, and treat others as you expect others to treat you.

If God gave man a free will and choice, who then has any right to take this choice away? and the answer is No one has any right, only God himself if he wanted to, If he wanted to, he could have easily wiped away those he did not like praying or worshipping to cows or stone idols, and equally if he wanted he could have obliterated non-believers.

God loves all his creation regardless of any not believing in him, how and what religion or no religion man chooses, He does not prefer one religion over another and, and as he has given everyone a free choice, he accepts those who don't believe in him just as much as those who may worship him 50 times a day.

He strongly condemns taking life of another man, it is the worst sin anyone could ever commit , when one man kills another in his name, there just cannot be anything more evil than this. Man must have been deceived by a Satan, Man was given the intelligence to work out if God really would want a man to kill another in his name, that is not God but a Satan ordering a mischief. It is satan who would be very happy people killing each other in God's name.

God must be so ashamed when one man kills another in his name.

From this you could conclude that any religion that dictates taking life of another man because a man won't follow a particular religion, I have no respect or any regards for an evil doctrine, it simply cannot be the word of God. That is as simple as that.

You cannot force anyone or anything to love you, love is earned through respect and mutual feelings, like my cats, I can't force them to all come and purr away on my lap, they have a free will, ones who wants to jump on my lap and purr happily, earn my affection more, but that does not mean I hate others who are mean! God is no different to feelings and love.

He is merciful and not merciless
He is forgiving and not revengeful
he is the creator and not a destroyer, but he can destroy what he created when he wants.

it is not for a stupid ignorant man to decide who should be killed! a stupid and ignorant man should not pretend to be God's henchman. God himself is well and truly capable of executing death on whomsoever when he wants.
 
Although not believing in God I agree with all your sentiments on that post Mike.

The only fly in the ointment is.

How do you defend yourself against others who want to kill you.

Thou shalt not kill is quite explicit.

I guess when the bible was written it was easier to just physically overpower people without killing them...

Then man invented gunpowder and guns and bombs.

So does thou shall not kill now mean that you must just accept your death at the hand of others?
 
Although not believing in God I agree with all your sentiments on that post Mike.

The only fly in the ointment is.

How do you defend yourself against others who want to kill you.

Thou shalt not kill is quite explicit.

I guess when the bible was written it was easier to just physically overpower people without killing them...

Then man invented gunpowder and guns and bombs.

So does thou shall not kill now mean that you must just accept your death at the hand of others?

Another good question:

It is my true faith that i know will protect me from the evil, dare anyone take God's right away from taking anyone's life let alone mine, he shall never be at peace. That is God's promise. Remember when Cain killed his brother Abel, God promised Cane he shall never be at peace!
 
Itshere, I truly respect and admire the fact that even when you do not believe in a creator, you don't go around hacking people like those that do believe in Him, you are 10 thousand times more worthy of being a real good person than those who worship God and then go out to kill in his name because your views and beliefs are different to theirs,

They are the disillusioned evil beings who when dead, their skin is not even worthy of being worn as soles of a footwear.

And God would be well pleased with ones like you who hold love and care towards his creation. Even when you doubt in him.

I am glad we can have a sensible discussion and illuminate mankind from the dark ages with the light of God's love for all mankind.

God said no matter what, your one good deed is worth tens of thousand prayers. and one bad deed cancels all your good deeds.
 
I know what it is. Just because you don't believe in a personal God doesn't mean you don't accept that there isn't the Einsteinian view. You do know what Einstein said on the matter don't you? You are just jumping on the, 'I'm an atheist bandwagon' like it's some kind of badge of honour rather than a badge of stupidity.

No I don't believe in any "god" full stop, anyone's else's opinion on the matter is irrelevant including Einstein, I don't agree with his curvature of space explaining gravity theory either but so what, different argument , I was making a statement of my stance, your problem is what exactly? My views differ from yours? :rolleyes:
you also seem to bringing in the evolutionist\creationist argument into it which has nothing to do with whether I am an atheist or not,different argument mate
If your asking then yes I believe in the workings of evolution but I am also open minded that we (as us, here, now, on this planet) could maybe somehow have been created as in everything got a kick start but I don't believe it was sort of "Deity" based on folklore that started it
e.g an experiment?
I don't follow any religion, not my cuppa tea sorry but feel free yourself I don't mind
I find gossips interesting but come on use your common
So are you religious Joe?

Matt
 
Btw, atheism is not a faith, it's the lack of one. :rolleyes:
:rolleyes:
you can have faith without religion you know as "in others" of which I have abundance for some and I'm an Atheist
Faith isn't an exclusive word for religious people you know us Atheists can use it too
 
So my conclusion is that God definitely exists, and he created us above all creatures on earth to be unique, and intelligent and to dominate over other species. Halleluiah! God does exist after all against all argument and he created us and the universe.
Do just believe in the existence of your god Mike or do you acknowledge the gods of all religions?


That is a very good question Jeds, in short yes I do, but with some exceptions, for instance, I don't care if you take Hindus for example who are happy worshipping stone idols, or worshipping a cow, rats or anything for that matter, I know many don't and many worship other gods, rama and Krishna, but do you see them going around hacking people to death because others won't worship their way!


If God gave man a free will and choice, who then has any right to take this choice away? and the answer is No one has any right, only God himself if he wanted to has any right, If he wanted to, he could have easily wiped away those he did not want praying or worshipping to cows or stone idols, and equally if he wanted he could have obliterated non-believers.

God loves all his creation regardless of their belief in him, how and what religion or no religion man chooses, he does not prefer one religion over another and, and as he has given everyone a free choice, he accepts those who don't believe in him just as much as those who may worship him 50 times a day.

He strongly condemns taking life of another man, it is the worst sin, when one man kills another in his name, there just cannot be anything more evil than this.

God must be so ashamed when one man kills another in his name.

From this you could conclude that any religion that dictates taking life of another man because a man won't follow a particular religion, I have no respect or any regards for an evil doctrine, it simply cannot be the word of God. That is as simple as that.

You cannot force anyone or anything to love you, love is earned through respect and mutual feelings, like my cats, I can't force them to all come and purr away on my lap, they have a free will, ones who wants to jump on my lap and purr happily, earn my affection more, but that does not mean I hate others who are mean! God is no different to feelings and love.

He is merciful and not merciless
He is forgiving and not revengeful
he is the creator and not a destroyer, but he can destroy what he created when he wants.

it is not for a stupid ignorant man to decide who should be killed! a stupid and ignorant man should not pretend to be God's henchman. God himself is well and truly capable of executing death on whomsoever when he wants.

Mike no offence Mate you are entitled to your beliefs
But on what basis do you base them on? I know it is blind belief but what makes an intelligent man follow such?
 
I know what it is. Just because you don't believe in a personal God doesn't mean you don't accept that there isn't the Einsteinian view. You do know what Einstein said on the matter don't you? You are just jumping on the, 'I'm an atheist bandwagon' like it's some kind of badge of honour rather than a badge of stupidity.

No I don't believe in any "god" full stop, anyone's else's opinion on the matter is irrelevant including Einstein, I don't agree with his curvature of space explaining gravity theory either but so what, different argument , I was making a statement of my stance, your problem is what exactly? My views differ from yours? :rolleyes:
you also seem to bringing in the evolutionist\creationist argument into it which has nothing to do with whether I am an atheist or not,different argument mate
If your asking then yes I believe in the workings of evolution but I am also open minded that we (as us, here, now, on this planet) could maybe somehow have been created as in everything got a kick start but I don't believe it was sort of "Deity" based on folklore that started it
e.g an experiment?
I don't follow any religion, not my cuppa tea sorry but feel free yourself I don't mind
I find gossips interesting but come on use your common
So are you religious Joe?

Matt

No, but I can see that we live in an orderly universe that came from somewhere.
 
Btw, atheism is not a faith, it's the lack of one. :rolleyes:
:rolleyes:
you can have faith without religion you know as "in others" of which I have abundance for some and I'm an Atheist
Faith isn't an exclusive word for religious people you know us Atheists can use it too

:rolleyes: yourself. I was using the word faith in it's religous sense, I've got faith that the sun will rise tomorrow. Nothing to do with religion, just experience.
 
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