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Ihave designed an engine that will run on sea water and be just as fast and powerful as a petrol/diesel. But im not going to tell anyone as the oil companies will have me killed by tomorrow and i have work to go to
Oil running out?
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As I said in my other post, petrol cars can run on ethanol, diesel cars can run on vegetable oil, and with nuclear, wind, wave, hydroelectric, solar etc how are we going to be without electricity.. I've never even heard of an oil fired power plant.. coal and gas yes, but not oil..
A nobel idea, but a flawed one..
the society we see on the telly, apart from being a fictitious one, is the result of several more wars and intervention by an alien species..
it includes devices capable of altering the weather paterns of the planet and devices capable of creating things from thin air..
no one in their right mind would go to work if they didn't have to..
we go for the money, you can't tell me that you'd not rather be on a beach somewhere or fishing down the lake?
solar, wind and wave offshore plants that electrolyse hydrogen and oxygen from sea water.. you could use both as the fuel to increase the efficiency of the hydrogen cell
has anyone heard about microbial fuel cells?
they use bacteria to produce either hydrogen for hydrogen fuel cells, or they can produce electricity directly.. and they do it by "eating" organic matter.. it's one step closer to the "Mr Fusion" device that is fitted to the DeLorien in the second and third Back to the Future films..
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deference to Steve a couple of pages ago - he refers to the Prius car that I was talking about.
So, to create hydrogen, we can use bacteria (as you suggest), chemical, or electrolysis. Personally, I think I'll put my money on the electrolysis - once we have managed to fully utilise "renewable" energy cources to create electricity, then the world moves on to a hydrogen economy, and our middle east brethern get back to being the nomads that they would probably prefer.
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Boy that Thermo's loses his cool very quickly 
As agriculture is so dependent on fossil fuels for fertilizer and tractor fuel then it clearly impacts on food production. If we start using food crops for fuel much of the worlds poor (which we could become) will starve.
Hydrogen may be the key to our fuel needs but what will replace the fertilizers supplied by the agrochemical industry to our farming industry.
As agriculture is so dependent on fossil fuels for fertilizer and tractor fuel then it clearly impacts on food production. If we start using food crops for fuel much of the worlds poor (which we could become) will starve.
Hydrogen may be the key to our fuel needs but what will replace the fertilizers supplied by the agrochemical industry to our farming industry.
GORRIT!
Do away with cars/machines etc and go back to shankses pony for travel, manual labour on the farms, woodworkers use hand tools, ironsmiths back to the furnace driven by hand bellows, plumbers use buckets to keep people supplied and we have FULL employment!
YEAH!
Who needs oil?
Boy, a good sleep works wonders!
GORRIT!
Do away with cars/machines etc and go back to shankses pony for travel, manual labour on the farms, woodworkers use hand tools, ironsmiths back to the furnace driven by hand bellows, plumbers use buckets to keep people supplied and we have FULL employment!
And may have to do a bit of fishing
Do away with cars/machines etc and go back to shankses pony for travel, manual labour on the farms, woodworkers use hand tools, ironsmiths back to the furnace driven by hand bellows, plumbers use buckets to keep people supplied and we have FULL employment!
And may have to do a bit of fishing
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You people are missing the point. There will always be oil - but what our civilisation is built on is CHEAP oil. Oil that's cheaper than bottled water.
This is where the term PEAK OIL comes in. When supply no-longer meets demand then that resource becomes increasingly more expensive. This means the price of EVERYTHING rises. Or to put it another way we become poorer and poorer as our income buys us less and less. Ethanol is a waste of time as the manufacture uses just about as much energy as it provides. You can't grow a crop without oil/gas based fertilizer and pesticides. The crop then needs cutting, transporting, processing (all using oil) to produce ethanol. There is also the problem of mountains of waste material to be disposed of. Not only that - where would we grow the stuff? There would be no room for edible crops or feed for animals. May as well just use the oil needed to produce it.
Hydrogen? How do you produce it? The chemical bond of water takes more energy to break than it releases.? So where is the benefit there?
No-one has ever found an answer to the fuel crisis approaching - and it doesn't look like they ever will. (You would need to break the laws of science to do so).
This is where the term PEAK OIL comes in. When supply no-longer meets demand then that resource becomes increasingly more expensive. This means the price of EVERYTHING rises. Or to put it another way we become poorer and poorer as our income buys us less and less. Ethanol is a waste of time as the manufacture uses just about as much energy as it provides. You can't grow a crop without oil/gas based fertilizer and pesticides. The crop then needs cutting, transporting, processing (all using oil) to produce ethanol. There is also the problem of mountains of waste material to be disposed of. Not only that - where would we grow the stuff? There would be no room for edible crops or feed for animals. May as well just use the oil needed to produce it.
Hydrogen? How do you produce it? The chemical bond of water takes more energy to break than it releases.? So where is the benefit there?
No-one has ever found an answer to the fuel crisis approaching - and it doesn't look like they ever will. (You would need to break the laws of science to do so).
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