Old Conservatives don't understand

[motorbiking]

For their investment, no effort is needed, they will get a good return on an asset that increases in value, all at no cost to themselves.

You really think this is passive income?
If you too have a rental, who organises:
- your tenants repairs
- credit and right to rent checks
- finds you a tenant
- sorts out your electrical and gas safety checks
- protects deposits
- deals with bad debt, evictions, etc

 

[JohnD]

It's interesting that you think the poorest, most needy in society (the people who qualify for a council house), who have managed get themselves to the point they can qualify to buy their council home are somehow lucky.

Wrong.

I think that any small minority who gets to force an owner to sell them a valuable asset at less than its value, to the detriment of the rest of us, is lucky.

 

[motorbiking]

Im interested to see you prove your point. Lets start with the qualifying criteria for a council house and then explore the right to buy process..
over to you.

 

[JohnD]

It's interesting that you think the poorest, most needy in society (the people who qualify for a council house),

Your dishonesty is despicable.

You know, but try to hide, the fact that the poorest and most needy includes the homeless, the destitute, and those in substandard accommodation.

Who have little chance of attaining decent living conditions due to the shortage of social housing.

You know that it does not include those lucky enough to have a secure home, well-maintained and of a good standard.

Have you always resorted to deliberate dishonesty in your arguments?

Like the time you pretended to have seen a non-existent press release to bolster your misogynistic vendetta?

 

[JohnD]

Wrong.

I think that any small minority who gets to force an owner to sell them a valuable asset at less than its value, to the detriment of the rest of us, is lucky.

Here is my point.

Let's see you try to disprove it.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

You really think this is passive income?
If you too have a rental, who organises:
- your tenants repairs
- credit and right to rent checks
- finds you a tenant
- sorts out your electrical and gas safety checks
- protects deposits
- deals with bad debt, evictions, etc

And how often do you do any of that?

If its too much, give it up


There's much tougher ways of getting income

 

[gas112]

Wrong.

I think that any small minority who gets to force an owner to sell them a valuable asset at less than its value, to the detriment of the rest of us, is lucky.

In what way is it detrimental to you and how does this effect you ?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

In what way is it detrimental to you and how does this effect you ?

Selling off council housing stock ?

Only a few benefit

 

[gas112]

Selling off council housing stock ?

Only a few benefit

Non answer but the question was directed at j d . .

 

[Brigadier]

It's interesting that you think the poorest, most needy in society (the people who qualify for a council house), who have managed get themselves to the point they can qualify to buy their council home are somehow lucky.

At half price.

Which also means there's one fewer house, for the next equally - deserving person or family.

While the new householder looks down on them and sneers that "if only they had my work ethic, they too could afford a house. But they're feckless, and expect the state to support them".

 

[Notch7]

Non answer but the question was directed at j d . .

it was an answer

if council houses are sold cheap + new ones not built to replace, then the government ends up having to pay out housing benefit which goes to private landlords and the cost ends up being greater. Thats an increase in cost on our taxes, which affects us all

Im surprised you cant work these things out for yourself

 

[denso13]

At half price.

It's even more, up to 70% off.

 

[gas112]

it was an answer

if council houses are sold cheap + new ones not built to replace, then the government ends up having to pay out housing benefit which goes to private landlords and the cost ends up being greater. Thats an increase in cost on our taxes, which affects us all

Im surprised you cant work these things out for yourself

The money from the sale from the houses far out weighed any benefit payments so we are quids in . I'm surprised you didn't look into that. And housing benefit would still be required by many whether they were living in council or private accommodation

 

[denso13]

The money from the sale from the houses far out weighed any benefit payments so we are quids in

The income in England from RTB since 2011 is about 9 billion pounds, the cost of housing benefit alone in 2015 was 26 billion pounds. They aren't even in the same ballpark...

 

[gas112]

The income in England from RTB since 2011 is about 9 billion pounds, the cost of housing benefit alone in 2015 was 26 billion pounds. They aren't even in the same bal

yep total figures which includes all council /housing association and private rents try breaking it down to cost due to the sold off houses