Old Conservatives don't understand

[carmanmemoranda]

Affordable housing supply in England: 2022 to 2023

www.gov.uk

delivery is normally lower in the first years of any new programme and increases to a peak around the end of a programme. The peak in 2014-15 is explained by the end of the 2011-15 Affordable Homes Programme and the increase in the number of completions since 2015-16 reflects the transition to the 2016-23 Affordable Homes Programme. The relative high level of completions in 2022-23 is likely due to the end of the latter programme.

 

[motorbiking]

so more built then..

Affordable housing supply in England: 2022 to 2023

www.gov.uk

good glad we cleared that up.

There were 58,027 new build affordable homes completed in 2022-23, the highest number on record (since 1991-92). These were supplemented by 3,948 acquisitions of existing homes not previously used for affordable housing and 1,630 homes where there is currently no information on whether they are new build or acquisitions.

The 58,027 new build affordable homes represent an increase of 0.2% on the existing stock of all 25.16m homes in England at 31 March 2022 [footnote 9]. This is similar to recent years, with the proportion varying between 0.1% and 0.2% throughout the available period (since 1991-92) [footnote 10].

Proportionally, of the 63,065 affordable homes delivered in 2021-22, 94% were new build and 6% were acquisitions (excluding unknowns). These proportions have changed considerably since the early 1990s, particularly after 2003-04. In 1992-93, 6 out of 10 new affordable homes were new build compared to more than 9 out of 10 in the latest year.

and nice warm, efficient ones too.

 

[JonathanM]

so more built then..

more than what?

 

[motorbiking]

editing while you posted see above

 

[JohnD]

I think we're all agreed that the benefits of forcing owners to sell assets below their value are so great (says motorbiking )

That the same obligation should be placed on private owners.

 

[JonathanM]

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[motorbiking]

Yes - all those who receive grants, tax breaks, special arrangements etc. to build affordable homes for social housing should be subject to right to buy or right to acquire.

You do know that is currently how it works?

 

[JohnD]

But the benefits you claim, of forcing owners to sell their assets below value are so great, that the country would obviously benefit from applying them more widely.

 

[motorbiking]

I don't support the idea of private landlords getting grants and special tax breaks etc. Curious that you seem to?

I thought you hated people who made money renting property out.

 

[JonathanM]

so more built then..

More built than what? What are you comparing with? More than zero? More than a specific year? More than under Labour? More than the same amount of grant money would achieve with a different mix of tenures? More than if councils hadn't been restricted for forty years?

 

[JohnD]

I thought you hated people

Another of your fantasies.

 

[Notch7]

so more built then..

Affordable housing supply in England: 2022 to 2023

www.gov.uk

good glad we cleared that up.

There were 58,027 new build affordable homes completed in 2022-23, the highest number on record (since 1991-92). These were supplemented by 3,948 acquisitions of existing homes not previously used for affordable housing and 1,630 homes where there is currently no information on whether they are new build or acquisitions.

The 58,027 new build affordable homes represent an increase of 0.2% on the existing stock of all 25.16m homes in England at 31 March 2022 [footnote 9]. This is similar to recent years, with the proportion varying between 0.1% and 0.2% throughout the available period (since 1991-92) [footnote 10].

Proportionally, of the 63,065 affordable homes delivered in 2021-22, 94% were new build and 6% were acquisitions (excluding unknowns). These proportions have changed considerably since the early 1990s, particularly after 2003-04. In 1992-93, 6 out of 10 new affordable homes were new build compared to more than 9 out of 10 in the latest year.

and nice warm, efficient ones too.

“affordable homes” are not council houses.

The most cost effective system for provision of social houses is for councils to own the properties themselves

That keeps the asset state owned and is not subjected to the private sector having their own agenda.


What a shame councils have been restricted for 40 years.

 

[motorbiking]

They seem to have proven they aren't capable. and of course the above shows they haven't been restricted for the last 40 years.

 

[JonathanM]

and of course the above shows they haven't been restricted for the last 40 years.

Who hasn't been restricted?

How does it the above graph show that "they" haven't been restricted?

 

[Notch7]

They seem to have proven they aren't capable

no they dont

meanwhile, plenty of evidence of failures by housing associations

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-06-16/collapsed-ceilings-mice-and-mould-appalling-conditions-uncovered-across-an-entire-housing-estate-of-nearly-500-homes

https://committees.parliament.uk/work/1617/the-regulation-of-social-housing/news/172247/social-housing-tenants-complaints-of-uninhabitable-homes-must-be-addressed/

Tenants left living in squalor in Britain as landlords escape heavy fines

Exclusive: housing association payouts over failures to fix life-threatening mould and damp average only £445

www.theguardian.com

of course the above shows they haven't been restricted for the last 40 years

yes they have been restricted:

housing revenue borrowing account cap introduced in 1980 housing act